Chiefs Postgame

[deanpet21]

It doesn't increase our chances because of the limited time available and we lose the element of surprise. I am absolutely factoring in time remaining. Had we not taken the timeout and done it your way, we were down to 40 seconds, and barely made the first with the clock still running.

You are forgetting that we would of had 2 timeouts plus 40 second from the 20 yardline. Plenty of time. Time would have not been an issue at all.

 

[deanpet21]

Just because he claims it is a mismanaged clock in hindsight, doesn't make it so.

true I am just giving you another fans perspective.

 

[gkekoa]

You are forgetting that we would of had 2 timeouts plus 40 second from the 20 yardline. Plenty of time. Time would have not been an issue at all.

Really it is one timeout because you save the other for the FG.

 

[deanpet21]

Really it is one timeout because you save the other for the FG.

no. you can always spike it on 3rd down if we picked up the first. time wasn't an issue if we picked up the 3and 2 on a short pass.

 

[gkekoa]

no. you can always spike it on 3rd down if we picked up the first. time wasn't an issue if we picked up the 3and 2 on a short pass.

Haha...teams save that last timeout.

Continually passing brings in the possibility for interceptions. It also brings in the possibility of fumbles which we have had a large share of this season. It also brings up false start and holding penalties which we have had a large portion of. Ask Atlanta about being knocked out of FG range.

 

[j_y19]

Sometime JY you guys can be ridiculous with your counter comments. I'm not here to beat up Cousins and my comments clearly praised Cousins in the paragraph multiple times. Therefore, I did NOT hold Cousins clearly responsible for this loss. Based on my reasoning, I hold everyone on offense responsible, including Cousins, the coach calling plays etc. Cousins did show some moxy picking up several first downs running the ball. The old adage in coaching, "If no one is open, then you are open", hence take off and run. As for any beef, apparently you don't really pay attention to post, you just attack them with vigor to get a rise out of some posters. I wish Cousins was already signed, sealed and delivered as our QB for the foreseeable future. However, that's not the case. Do I blame anyone for that? Yes, all involved so there you have it.

HTTR!

Skinz2winz, my bad. I reread your original post. I thought you said you put the loss squarely on Cousins. I missed the words "do not". My apologies.

 

[j_y19]

You are not factoring in the TO after CT's run in options 1,3,4. If we get the first down how does not increase the chance of getting a TD? Losing is not losing. There are always reasons why you lost. Clock mgt matters. You are totally dismissing it.

Follow closely, Dean. I'll speak slowly. Because if we get the 1st down there, the Chiefs only have to defend the end zone the next few plays. So now we have 5 or more defenders in the end zone defending the pass. Unlike when they didn't know if we were going for a 1st down or kill shot, they had to defend both. This left only 2 defenders in the end zone and both receivers were open. Understand now why it might be easier to score a TD in that situation?

 

[j_y19]

I got this from a tandler poster.

The Skins played a tough and gritty game against a very good team on the road. It was their best performance on Monday night since 2014. At WORST, they should have gone to OT . Gruden, again, mismanaged the clock at the end of the game. Looked like he panicked and called that timeout before the 3rd and 2 play. Should have let another 20 seconds run off before calling it. Honestly, Reid should have called it, but he's historically terrible at clock management. I don't mind taking the shot in the end zone, be it Doctson or the hitch-and-go to Reed. But the Chiefs should not have had more than 20-25 seconds at the end, not 50 seconds. 35 seconds from their 20 with 2 timeouts would have given the Skins at least 4 plays, if not 5...tough to watch the repeated clock mismanagement.

Tandler is wrong. If Gruden would have let another 20 seconds go off the clock, what do you think that would tell the Chiefs? Its all about the element of surprise and keeping your opponent on their heels. He lets the clock wind down and that signals to anyone that knows anything about football that we are going for the TD. You need to find a football mind and not a blogger to support your argument.

 

[Kevin12773]

Follow closely, Dean. I'll speak slowly. Because if we get the 1st down there, the Chiefs only have to defend the end zone the next few plays. So now we have 5 or more defenders in the end zone defending the pass. Unlike when they didn't know if we were going for a 1st down or kill shot, they had to defend both. This left only 2 defenders in the end zone and both receivers were open. Understand now why it might be easier to score a TD in that situation?

JY you don't know football! The skins are deadly in the red zone

 

[Sportster 72]

Who the hell is quoting Tandler?? That guy is usually at the wrong stadium. He and Chris Russell are having a battle to see which one can come up with an IQ of 1 first.

 

[deanpet21]

Follow closely, Dean. I'll speak slowly. Because if we get the 1st down there, the Chiefs only have to defend the end zone the next few plays. So now we have 5 or more defenders in the end zone defending the pass. Unlike when they didn't know if we were going for a 1st down or kill shot, they had to defend both. This left only 2 defenders in the end zone and both receivers were open. Understand now why it might be easier to score a TD in that situation?

I get that but its a risk. If you don't get it like we did you leave way too much time on the clock. That still doesn't explain the timeout after the CT run

 

[skinz2winz]

Skinz2winz, my bad. I reread your original post. I thought you said you put the loss squarely on Cousins. I missed the words "do not". My apologies.

And no worries JY. Thank you for acknowledging.

 

[deanpet21]

Tandler is wrong. If Gruden would have let another 20 seconds go off the clock, what do you think that would tell the Chiefs? Its all about the element of surprise and keeping your opponent on their heels. He lets the clock wind down and that signals to anyone that knows anything about football that we are going for the TD. You need to find a football mind and not a blogger to support your argument.

it wasn't Tandler. it was a comment on his post from a blogger. We still had a opportunity to score if we pickup the 1st down. I disagree with you there. YOu have a point with element of surprise but its a huge risk b/c it leaves too much time on the clock.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

it wasn't Tandler. it was a comment on his post from a blogger. We still had a opportunity to score if we pickup the 1st down. I disagree with you there. YOu have a point with element of surprise but its a huge risk b/c it leaves too much time on the clock.

You can't run a football team like that. You don't worry about the other team having time & scoring on you - that reeks of fear on your side. First & foremost you try to score & a TD if possible. I can see worrying about perhaps having a few minutes on the clock but not 30-40 seconds.

Your approach eventually leads to this ultra conservative, play not to lose philosophy that leads to less than desirable results in the long run. Your approach is very similar to what the Falcons did in the latter stages of the SB that lead to their eventual defeat. No doubt you will disagree w/ this.

 

[Sportster 72]

Most coaches say "lets screw around until there is only 5 seconds left and then we will score."

 

[deanpet21]

You can't run a football team like that. You don't worry about the other team having time & scoring on you - that reeks of fear on your side. First & foremost you try to score & a TD if possible. I can see worrying about perhaps having a few minutes on the clock but not 30-40 seconds.

Your approach eventually leads to this ultra conservative, play not to lose philosophy that leads to less than desirable results in the long run. Your approach is very similar to what the Falcons did in the latter stages of the SB that lead to their eventual defeat. No doubt you will disagree w/ this.

You cant run a football team like you are playing Madden on play station either. I was the only one on here calling Kyle Shanny an ass for NOT running the ball. The Falcons did your approach on trying to score through the air when they had a big lead instead of running the ball. The Falcons didn't playy smart conservative football and they lost there biggest game of there lives. You are proving my point for me. lol

 

[SoCalWizFan]

You cant run a football team like you are playing Madden on play station either. I was the only one on here calling Kyle Shanny an ass for NOT running the ball. The Falcons did your approach on trying to score through the air when they had a big lead instead of running the ball. The Falcons didn't playy smart conservative football and they lost there biggest game of there lives. You are proving my point for me. lol

How exactly was Gruden running the team like playing Madden the other nt? They were running a steady drive down the field & were very close to pulling off the game winning play. I like seeing that approach in a coach.

That play or supposed clock mgmt. didn't cost them the game. The lack of a running game, crazy amt of injuries, defensive issues and stupid defensive penalties cost them the game. Penalties can be overcome moving fwd & defensive issues were a by product of the injuries. Best thing now is to learn from this game to help secure more future victories.

Honest question - do you believe that you would be a better coach than Gruden?

 

[deanpet21]

How exactly was Gruden running the team like playing Madden the other nt? They were running a steady drive down the field & were very close to pulling off the game winning play. I like seeing that approach in a coach.

That play or supposed clock mgmt. didn't cost them the game. The lack of a running game, crazy amt of injuries, defensive issues and stupid defensive penalties cost them the game. Penalties can be overcome moving fwd & defensive issues were a by product of the injuries. Best thing now is to learn from this game to help secure more future victories.

Honest question - do you believe that you would be a better coach than Gruden?

B/c most of you guys feel to take huge risks on scoring no matter what the clock or timeout situation is. The clock mgt gaff maybe didnt cost us the game but it should of sent us to overtime.

Gruden has made these clock mgt gaffs before. This shouldn't surprise anyone. Actually Gruden's strength is play calling. I believe he is a better o coordinator than head coach. but when you look around the league their are a lot of bad head coached out there. SO im not too mad about Gruden being our head coach there are worst ones out there.

AS far as me personally. I could do a better job in the clock mgt part of the game.

 

[gkekoa]

B/c most of you guys feel to take huge risks on scoring no matter what the clock or timeout situation is. The clock mgt gaff maybe didnt cost us the game but it should of sent us to overtime.

Gruden has made these clock mgt gaffs before. This shouldn't surprise anyone. Actually Gruden's strength is play calling. I believe he is a better o coordinator than head coach. but when you look around the league their are a lot of bad head coached out there. SO im not too mad about Gruden being our head coach there are worst ones out there.

AS far as me personally. I could do a better job in the clock mgt part of the game.

Got it...so we should have played for overtime. We should have helped your fantasy team rather than win a football game. Brilliant. Gruden's play calling is horrendous.

 

[deanpet21]

Got it...so we should have played for overtime. We should have helped your fantasy team rather than win a football game. Brilliant. Gruden's play calling is horrendous.

never said play for overtime. still had time for a td if we pick up the first. plus would have burned 30 seconds off the clock.