How Many Legit Championships Has Lebron Won?

[RobToxin]

Yup. No irrational Lebron haters here.

I happen to love the rational and clearly unbiased opinions given in this thread.

I will even go a step further and use OP's logic and just claim that the Spurs have won every NBA Title since 1999 and all the times they lost don't count because .....

reasons!

 

[tlance]

Someone check this dude's user account.

SMan, is that you?

 

[Mecca]

3 time champ, 3'time finals MVP
4 MVPs
13 year all star
13 year all NBA team
5'time all defensive team
Rookie of year
Gold medals


The guy does it all. Easily the GOAT and he's not even done

I'm just not ready to go there .....yet.

If he beats this Warriors Team?

Yeah.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

No because there was nothing stupid I said. The fact is Lebron could EASILY be 1-6 in NBA finals right now.

Ray Allen's Miracle 3 saved him a few years ago. Injuries to the Warriors last year and Green missing game enabled the Cavs to come back from 1-3 down. If Warriors were at full strength, ZERO chance the Cavs come back in that series

as I said, the only "convincing" finals I saw from the guy was against the Thunder. The other, Ray Allen Miracle shot, and Injuries to the Warriors.

Do we take away Golden States' first ring considering Lebron was playing without Love and Kyrie?

 

[ericd7633]

One. A few years ago against the Thunder.

The others.. Allen bailed him out with the miracle 3. Last year, Injuries to Curry, Bogut and missing Green for a game, helped the Cavs come back and win (or else it never would have happened)

And even that finals win against the Thunder was "mehh". First time Finals participants, And Harden no showing. Thunder would have been a much tougher team to beat if Lebron played them again in the finals.

Basically out of 3 titles, he LUCKED OUT on 2 of them. Haven't seen too many what I would call "convincing" finals from the guy. If you think about it, hes Lucky he isn't 1-6 in NBA finals.

LeBron had 32, 11, and 10 in that game, but let's not give him any credit. He was the MAIN reason why Allen was in position to to hit a shot like that, but let's all forget about that.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

LeBron had 32, 11, and 10 in that game, but let's not give him any credit. He was the MAIN reason why Allen was in position to to hit a shot like that, but let's all forget about that.

Yup, Lebron hit a 3 right before that when the game was getting out of reach

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

No because there was nothing stupid I said. The fact is Lebron could EASILY be 1-6 in NBA finals right now.

Ray Allen's Miracle 3 saved him a few years ago. Injuries to the Warriors last year and Green missing game enabled the Cavs to come back from 1-3 down. If Warriors were at full strength, ZERO chance the Cavs come back in that series

as I said, the only "convincing" finals I saw from the guy was against the Thunder. The other, Ray Allen Miracle shot, and Injuries to the Warriors.

You say stupid shit constantly. Seriously, like more than half of your posts are straight retarded. I was just wondering if you were aware of that. Apparently not.

Have a good one, dude guy.

 

[ericd7633]

Yup, Lebron hit a 3 right before that when the game was getting out of reach

Yep, then in game 7 LeBron finishes with 37 and 12, and Allen with a goose egg, but Allen was the reason the Heat won that title. lol.

 

[tlance]

Do we take away Golden States' first ring considering Lebron was playing without Love and Kyrie?

Let's take away every ring from every player where anything contoversial happened, or where one of his teammates made a significant contribution.

You know what we would be left with?

Nothing. Because no individual can win a title alone.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Yep, then in game 7 LeBron finishes with 37 and 12, and Allen with a goose egg, but Allen was the reason the Heat won that title. lol.

Lebron is the only guy ever, in which his haters get angry if he gets any help at all in winning......Jordan only had HOF'er Scottie Pippen hitting big shots his entire career, or playing HOF defense next to him...Magic and Bird only had rosters full of all time HOF players....But God Forbid someone gives Lebron a helping hand in a game

 

[Mecca]

LMAO

How much does Ray Allens' 3 mean if Lebron doesnt go for 38 points and 18 rebounds that night?

or average about 35 points in that series?

Yeah, it was all Ray Allen

Well, Ray Allen shouldn't have any rings either since he had to join 2 separate Super Teams to win them.

#CommonSenseNotSoCommon

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Sometimes all you have to do is let the words of idiots speak for themselves.

Sometimes.

Other times it's more fun to call those idiots retards on the internets.

 

[Mecca]

Lebron is the only guy ever, in which his haters get angry if he gets any help at all in winning......Jordan only had HOF'er Scottie Pippen hitting big shots his entire career, or playing HOF defense next to him...Magic and Bird only had rosters full of all time HOF players....But God Forbid someone gives Lebron a helping hand in a game

I think most people's ire comes from the WAY Lebron assembled those Super Teams.

The Lakers and Celtics traded for KAJ and Parrish well before they became that incarnation of the Super rivals.



In fairness, that level of player movement was nonexistent when those legends played.

So, it's easy to say " We would never have played buddy ball".

 

[Mecca]

LeBron had 32, 11, and 10 in that game, but let's not give him any credit. He was the MAIN reason why Allen was in position to to hit a shot like that, but let's all forget about that.

Dude, please stop it.

We all know Steve Kerr's game winner is the only reason Jordan has that ring.

No wonder he's having back issues. Carrying Jordan's ass over the finish line destroyed several vertebrae.

 

[DorianRo]

Lebron is the only guy ever, in which his haters get angry if he gets any help at all in winning......Jordan only had HOF'er Scottie Pippen hitting big shots his entire career, or playing HOF defense next to him...Magic and Bird only had rosters full of all time HOF players....But God Forbid someone gives Lebron a helping hand in a game

Jordan/Pippen played in a very tough East. Lebron NEVER has. Or hardly ever has. At least not to the level that Jordan/Pippen did. And "helping Hand" is an understatement. Bosh/Wade/Korver/Irving/Allen/Smith/Shaq/host of other sharp shooters.. Thats more help that most players DREAM of ever getting all the while playing in a crappy conference most of his career.

Chicago was mainly Jordan/Pippen and a bunch of role players their entire career and playing against SUPERIOR playoff teams. They had Rodman, but he was ZERO help for offense in terms of getting point. Obviously his Rebounding/Defense helped but its not like you could give the guy the ball and say, "Here go get us buckets'. ROFLMAO.. And that was not the same Rodman DPOY animal that played in Detroit either.

If you gave Jordan, Lebrons help hes probably 10-0 in NBA finals. Or more

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I think most people's ire comes from the WAY Lebron assembled those Super Teams.

The Lakers and Celtics traded for KAJ and Parrish well before they became that incarnation of the Super rivals.



In fairness, that level of player movement was nonexistent when those legends played.

So, it's easy to say " We would never have played buddy ball".

I hear ya. I never had a problem with him going to Miami because he had maxed out in Cleveland, and recruiting players to play in Cleveland was damn near impossible. And it wasn't as if he was riding coattails to a title like Durant is doing. He was still far and away the biggest reason they won in Miami

 

[DorianRo]

Durant is lead dog on the Warriors. He isn't really riding anyone's coattails as a 2nd or 3rd fiddle. And Lebron lost TWICE In the playoffs to the lower seed. He had to go collude in Miami in the hopes of ever seeing a title.

What KD did was a beta move. But Lebron was making beta moves long before Durant was.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Jordan/Pippen played in a very tough East. Lebron NEVER has. Or hardly ever has. At least not to the level that Jordan/Pippen did. And "helping Hand" is an understatement. Bosh/Wade/Korver/Irving/Allen/Smith/Shaq/host of other sharp shooters.. Thats more help that most players DREAM of ever getting all the while playing in a crappy conference most of his career.

Chicago was mainly Jordan/Pippen and a bunch of role players their entire career and playing against SUPERIOR playoff teams. They had Rodman, but he was ZERO help for offense in terms of getting point. Obviously his Rebounding/Defense helped but its not like you could give the guy the ball and say, "Here go get us buckets'. ROFLMAO.. And that was not the same Rodman DPOY animal that played in Detroit either.

If you gave Jordan, Lebrons help hes probably 10-0 in NBA finals. Or more

Short memory. Horace Grant, Kukoc, Kerr, Paxton, Rodman

All guys as good or better, as clutch, as many of the guys you named

Cmon with Kyle Korver

Jordan wasn't carrying that first awful Cavs roster to an NBA final

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Your obsession is mildly disturbing, but mostly amusing. Your special lady friend told you she wishes she could fuck him, didn't she?

I have a special lady friend?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Durant is lead dog on the Warriors. He isn't really riding anyone's coattails as a 2nd or 3rd fiddle. And Lebron lost TWICE In the playoffs to the lower seed. He had to go collude in Miami in the hopes of ever seeing a title.

What KD did was a beta move. But Lebron was making beta moves long before Durant was.

You know where GS would be this season without Durant?

Yup, in the finals

Cleveland without Lebron?

The lottery