Winners & Losers of Free Agency

[Arizona_Sting]

Add the Suns, take off the Lakers

The Lakers made sales pitches, but they did not lose any assets. Players just politely declined.
It was understandable considering how far away they still are from contending.

Had the Lakers foolishly lost any of their future assets in attempts to sign guys it would be a diffrent story, but they kept all the future value chips.

The Lakers then did not over-react in a panic to throw silly Tristan Thompson cash around on 2nd tier guys.
I would not necessarily call that being a loser free agency period.

LMAO @ you calling Marcus Morris, Danny Granger and Reggie Bullock future assets. Stopped reading after that BS.

 

[trojanfan12]

I'm half expecting a "We got Chandler so we're winners" excuse

Shaqdaddy nails it.

Why? Brandon Knight for 5 years and 70 mil is a good value considering the salary cap rise and his age/potential. I mean Reggie Jackson got 5 years 80 mil for christ's sake!

Tyson Chandler gives us a much needed veteran presence in the locker room and allows us to have a legit 7 footer on the floor at all times with him and Alex Len. He'll probably start the first two years then once Len emerges (still only 21) he will take over and Chandler will move to a bench role.

We've lacked a team leader for a while now, so this helps. I'd say both signings weren't bad looking at some of the other ludicrous contracts given out this summer.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

Am I wrong? They didn't have any vets last year. I'm not in love with the signing long term with him, but he makes us better now. Not sure how much better, but with him and a healthy Knight who knows.

Shaqdaddy nails it.

 

[trojanfan12]

Am I wrong? They didn't have any vets last year. I'm not in love with the signing long term with him, but he makes us better now. Not sure how much better, but with him and a healthy Knight who knows.

If you consider getting Tyson Chandler as a "win," then I really don't know what to say. Had your salary dump to try and pair him with Aldridge worked, then the Suns would have definitely been a winner. But it didn't, so they're not.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

If you consider getting Tyson Chandler as a "win," then I really don't know what to say. Had your salary dump to try and pair him with Aldridge worked, then the Suns would have definitely been a winner. But it didn't, so they're not.

He's a double-double machine and plays solid defense. Not ecstatic about him, but it's not like he's a scrub. Better than Hibbert and has been for a while, btw.

What I'm happy about is re-signing Brandon Knight. Having him and Bledsoe locked up long term is good whether we keep them or not. It's all about stacking your assets in the NBA.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

And what I find hilarious is how everyone is overreacting to them trading away Marcus Morris A BACKUP SF and two guys that likely wouldn't see a single minute on our roster next year. With Tucker and Warren at SF already we had a log jam and got rid of it while clearing up cap space. If you don't think that deal is good regardless of landing Aldridge or not then you are really slow in the head.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

If you consider getting Tyson Chandler as a "win," then I really don't know what to say. Had your salary dump to try and pair him with Aldridge worked, then the Suns would have definitely been a winner. But it didn't, so they're not.

Also, when the fuck did I say we were "winners" in this thread? Putting words in people's mouths is what Lakers fans love to do so I'm not surprised but damn.

 

[Black Adam]

He's a double-double machine and plays solid defense. Not ecstatic about him, but it's not like he's a scrub. Better than Hibbert and has been for a while, btw.

What I'm happy about is re-signing Brandon Knight. Having him and Bledsoe locked up long term is good whether we keep them or not. It's all about stacking your assets in the NBA.

Totals
or hold your mouse over the header">Glossary · output HTML, CSV, or a shareable link">SHARESHARE [X] · Embed · CSV · Export · PRE · LINK · ?
★ - Indicates All-Star for league.
Only on regular season tables." data-stat="season">Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% Effective Field Goal Percentage
This statistic adjusts for the fact that a 3-point field goal is worth one more point than a 2-point field goal." data-stat="efg_pct">eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2001-02 19 CHI NBA C 71 31 1389 151 304 .497 0 0 151 304 .497 .497 134 222 .604 114 229 343 54 28 93 99 179 436
2002-03 20 CHI NBA C 75 68 1827 257 484 .531 0 0 257 484 .531 .531 177 291 .608 169 345 514 76 37 106 135 220 691
2003-04 21 CHI NBA PF 35 8 782 67 158 .424 0 1 .000 67 157 .427 .424 79 118 .669 82 188 270 23 17 43 38 87 213
2004-05 22 CHI NBA C 80 10 2189 207 419 .494 0 2 .000 207 417 .496 .494 226 336 .673 261 514 775 65 69 141 118 268 640
2005-06 23 CHI NBA C 79 50 2121 160 283 .565 0 1 .000 160 282 .567 .565 97 193 .503 265 449 714 81 41 104 123 298 417
2006-07 24 NOK NBA C 73 73 2525 292 468 .624 0 1 .000 292 467 .625 .624 106 201 .527 320 584 904 66 37 129 126 244 690
2007-08 25 NOH NBA C 79 79 2783 377 605 .623 0 1 .000 377 604 .624 .623 175 295 .593 322 606 928 81 45 84 136 243 929
2008-09 26 NOH NBA C 45 45 1445 160 283 .565 0 0 160 283 .565 .565 77 133 .579 163 230 393 22 15 56 70 144 397
2009-10 27 CHA NBA C 51 27 1163 109 190 .574 0 0 109 190 .574 .574 115 157 .732 114 206 320 16 17 55 91 138 333
2010-11 28 DAL NBA C 74 74 2059 266 407 .654 0 0 266 407 .654 .654 216 295 .732 206 486 692 32 36 80 88 240 748
2011-12 29 NYK NBA C 62 62 2061 241 355 .679 0 2 .000 241 353 .683 .679 217 315 .689 212 400 612 56 56 89 102 186 699
2012-13 ★ 30 NYK NBA C 66 66 2164 255 400 .638 0 0 255 400 .638 .638 179 258 .694 269 434 703 62 42 75 87 188 689
2013-14 31 NYK NBA C 55 55 1662 191 322 .593 0 1 .000 191 321 .595 .593 98 155 .632 159 370 529 59 36 63 71 145 480
2014-15 32 DAL NBA C 75 75 2286 293 440 .666 0 0 293 440 .666 .666 185 257 .720 294 570 864 84 42 91 105 169 771
Career NBA 920 723 26456 3026 5118 .591 0 9 .000 3026 5109 .592 .591 2081 3226 .645 2950 5611 8561 777 518 1209 1389 2749 8133
5 seasons CHI NBA 340 167 8308 842 1648 .511 0 4 .000 842 1644 .512 .511 713 1160 .615 891 1725 2616 299 192 487 513 1052 2397
3 seasons NOK,NOH NBA 197 197 6753 829 1356 .611 0 2 .000 829 1354 .612 .611 358 629 .569 805 1420 2225 169 97 269 332 631 2016
3 seasons NYK NBA 183 183 5887 687 1077 .638 0 3 .000 687 1074 .640 .638 494 728 .679 640 1204 1844 177 134 227 260 519 1868
2 seasons DAL NBA 149 149 4345 559 847 .660 0 0 559 847 .660 .660 401 552 .726 500 1056 1556 116 78 171 193 409 1519
1 season CHA NBA 51 27 1163 109 190 .574 0 0 109 190 .574 .574 115 157 .732 114 206 320 16 17 55 91 138 333

hmm...

 

[Black Adam]

k, THAT didn't copy as well as I would've liked...

 

[Arizona_Sting]

What're you trying to convey?

k, THAT didn't copy as well as I would've liked...

 

[Black Adam]

What're you trying to convey?

career numbers...

tried googling it up, but the copy didn't come out as well as I would've liked. but in short he's definitely missed some games and doesn't score all that well ESPECIALLY towards the back end of his career...

 

[trojanfan12]

Also, when the fuck did I say we were "winners" in this thread? Putting words in people's mouths is what Lakers fans love to do so I'm not surprised but damn.

was waiting for you to catch that.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

career numbers...

tried googling it up, but the copy didn't come out as well as I would've liked. but in short he's definitely missed some games and doesn't score all that well ESPECIALLY towards the back end of his career...

Oh, I'm well aware of that. His job isn't to score though. Never has been never will be. Suns need rebounding, shot blocking and veteran leadership desperately. They have ever since Nash and Grant Hill left.

Suns training staff is known for extending and even reviving careers so I'm not too worried about that.

 

[trojanfan12]

Totals
or hold your mouse over the header">Glossary · output HTML, CSV, or a shareable link">SHARESHARE [X] · Embed · CSV · Export · PRE · LINK · ?
★ - Indicates All-Star for league.
Only on regular season tables." data-stat="season">Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% Effective Field Goal Percentage
This statistic adjusts for the fact that a 3-point field goal is worth one more point than a 2-point field goal." data-stat="efg_pct">eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2001-02 19 CHI NBA C 71 31 1389 151 304 .497 0 0 151 304 .497 .497 134 222 .604 114 229 343 54 28 93 99 179 436
2002-03 20 CHI NBA C 75 68 1827 257 484 .531 0 0 257 484 .531 .531 177 291 .608 169 345 514 76 37 106 135 220 691
2003-04 21 CHI NBA PF 35 8 782 67 158 .424 0 1 .000 67 157 .427 .424 79 118 .669 82 188 270 23 17 43 38 87 213
2004-05 22 CHI NBA C 80 10 2189 207 419 .494 0 2 .000 207 417 .496 .494 226 336 .673 261 514 775 65 69 141 118 268 640
2005-06 23 CHI NBA C 79 50 2121 160 283 .565 0 1 .000 160 282 .567 .565 97 193 .503 265 449 714 81 41 104 123 298 417
2006-07 24 NOK NBA C 73 73 2525 292 468 .624 0 1 .000 292 467 .625 .624 106 201 .527 320 584 904 66 37 129 126 244 690
2007-08 25 NOH NBA C 79 79 2783 377 605 .623 0 1 .000 377 604 .624 .623 175 295 .593 322 606 928 81 45 84 136 243 929
2008-09 26 NOH NBA C 45 45 1445 160 283 .565 0 0 160 283 .565 .565 77 133 .579 163 230 393 22 15 56 70 144 397
2009-10 27 CHA NBA C 51 27 1163 109 190 .574 0 0 109 190 .574 .574 115 157 .732 114 206 320 16 17 55 91 138 333
2010-11 28 DAL NBA C 74 74 2059 266 407 .654 0 0 266 407 .654 .654 216 295 .732 206 486 692 32 36 80 88 240 748
2011-12 29 NYK NBA C 62 62 2061 241 355 .679 0 2 .000 241 353 .683 .679 217 315 .689 212 400 612 56 56 89 102 186 699
2012-13 ★ 30 NYK NBA C 66 66 2164 255 400 .638 0 0 255 400 .638 .638 179 258 .694 269 434 703 62 42 75 87 188 689
2013-14 31 NYK NBA C 55 55 1662 191 322 .593 0 1 .000 191 321 .595 .593 98 155 .632 159 370 529 59 36 63 71 145 480
2014-15 32 DAL NBA C 75 75 2286 293 440 .666 0 0 293 440 .666 .666 185 257 .720 294 570 864 84 42 91 105 169 771
Career NBA 920 723 26456 3026 5118 .591 0 9 .000 3026 5109 .592 .591 2081 3226 .645 2950 5611 8561 777 518 1209 1389 2749 8133
5 seasons CHI NBA 340 167 8308 842 1648 .511 0 4 .000 842 1644 .512 .511 713 1160 .615 891 1725 2616 299 192 487 513 1052 2397
3 seasons NOK,NOH NBA 197 197 6753 829 1356 .611 0 2 .000 829 1354 .612 .611 358 629 .569 805 1420 2225 169 97 269 332 631 2016
3 seasons NYK NBA 183 183 5887 687 1077 .638 0 3 .000 687 1074 .640 .638 494 728 .679 640 1204 1844 177 134 227 260 519 1868
2 seasons DAL NBA 149 149 4345 559 847 .660 0 0 559 847 .660 .660 401 552 .726 500 1056 1556 116 78 171 193 409 1519
1 season CHA NBA 51 27 1163 109 190 .574 0 0 109 190 .574 .574 115 157 .732 114 206 320 16 17 55 91 138 333

hmm...

 

[Arizona_Sting]

was waiting for you to catch that.

Can't believe you scooped up Lou for that cheap btw. Bass was a good pickup as well. You could probably be a playoff team in the Eastern Conference honestly with the roster you have now…. but the West is just too damn good.

 

[trojanfan12]

Oh, I'm well aware of that. His job isn't to score though. Never has been never will be. Suns need rebounding, shot blocking and veteran leadership desperately. They have ever since Nash and Grant Hill left.

Suns training staff is known for extending and even reviving careers so I'm not too worried about that.

I remember Shaq had a lot of great things to say about what the Suns training staff was able to do for him. He loved your training staff.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I nominate Dan Gilbert as a loser.
Does he have any pride left?
I'd love to be a little birdie inside his house.

 

[Black Adam]

I nominate Dan Gilbert as a loser.
Does he have any pride left?
I'd love to be a little birdie inside his house.

has LeBron told him to squeal like a pig yet...?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

has LeBron told him to squeal like a pig yet...?

Nah.
He saves that one for Mrs. Gilbert.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Shouldn't we wait, more than 4 days, to start calling teams losers and winners?