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Tom Herman: "Ndamukong Suh Should Have Won The Heisman"

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Texas coach Tom Herman: Ndamukong Suh deserved 2009 Heisman

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I actually agree with this. I think Suh was a better college player at his position and clearly the better NFL player. The Heisman really should be redefined because unless a defensive player plays offense, it's impossible for them to win.
 

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Damnit.
So now I'm gonna have to like Herman and Texas?

This guy is a smooooooooooth talker.
 

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The Heisman is a joke. Was Suh even invited to the announcement? I don't remember him even being in the top 3 of voting that year.
 

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The Heisman is a joke. Was Suh even invited to the announcement? I don't remember him even being in the top 3 of voting that year.

If you'd have read the article you'd have read this....

"He was named a Heisman finalist but finished fourth in the voting, behind Mark Ingram, Toby Gerhart and Colt McCoy."
 

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Remember Mark Ingram was Alabama's first ever Heisman Trophy winner that year too. That is stunning it took so long.
 

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Behind Colt McCoy tells you all you need to know about the award.


One of the most dominant performances at DT in CFB history. Hell, one of the most dominant at any position.
 

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Behind Colt McCoy tells you all you need to know about the award.


One of the most dominant performances at DT in CFB history. Hell, one of the most dominant at any position.

Tejas played for the natty that year too.
 

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Behind Colt McCoy tells you all you need to know about the award.


One of the most dominant performances at DT in CFB history. Hell, one of the most dominant at any position.
Marcell Dareus broke Colt McCoy 4 minutes into the 1st quarter.
 

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Why the fuck do we care what Tom Herman has to say about this.
 

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Why the fuck do we care what Tom Herman has to say about this.

Because he's been annointed Urban Meyer/Nick Saban quality. Just like Charlie Strong was.

It's Tejas en sech.
 

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Although I would like to see defensive people win the award more, I thought Ingram was pretty deserving. He pretty much carried Alabama on his back during October/November that year. The majority of his rushing yards were after contact, he earned them all.

Suh was a monster, no doubt about that. He is dirty in the NFL and I don't care for that. Maybe I just missed it, but I don't remember him being dirty at Nebraska.

But yeah, it's a dumb award really and should formally be renamed the "Hypesman". I'm happy for the players that win it, but I don't care much about it.
 

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Although I would like to see defensive people win the award more, I thought Ingram was pretty deserving. He pretty much carried Alabama on his back during October/November that year. The majority of his rushing yards were after contact, he earned them all.

Suh was a monster, no doubt about that. He is dirty in the NFL and I don't care for that. Maybe I just missed it, but I don't remember him being dirty at Nebraska.

But yeah, it's a dumb award really and should formally be renamed the "Hypesman". I'm happy for the players that win it, but I don't care much about it.

Many argued he wasn't even the best back on his own team the year he won it (most talented might be better). The following year that argument made even more sense. Good college RB, behind a killer OL. Its a compliment to the program, but I tend to think Bama RBs are over-rated. Just like Wisconsin RBs. It just seems anyone can go for 1k behind those OLs (in general). Suh was a special college player.
 

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Many argued he wasn't even the best back on his own team the year he won it (most talented might be better). The following year that argument made even more sense. Good college RB, behind a killer OL. Its a compliment to the program, but I tend to think Bama RBs are over-rated. Just like Wisconsin RBs. It just seems anyone can go for 1k behind those OLs (in general). Suh was a special college player.

What matters is what he did on the field that year. He carried the team because McElroy could barely complete passes. In the NC game we attempted a total of like 8 passes.

And in terms of what he did on the field, over 1000 of his yards that year came after contact. Meaning he worked for them, it wasn't just holes being opened up for him.

Which has apparently continued into the NFL. He averaged 3.1 yards per carry....after contact.

Mark the Spot: Saints' Ingram among league best in yards after contact

Ingram is actually one of the league’s best when it comes to gaining yards after being hit, per Pro Football Focus.

On almost 88% of his carries, Ingram is able to gain positive yardage after contact. That’s basically on 9 out of every 10 carries where he’s able to gain at least an extra yard or two.

And let's not pretend like the 2009 team was the same kind of teams talent wise that we have now. That was before all the #1 recruiting classes.
 
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