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Hardware is also nice when it's pretty much handed to you by your mentor. Keep in mind, those first two conference titles were won largely with Harbaugh's kids.

Harbaugh's kids that he couldn't win the Pac with, but Shaw could?
 

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With all due respect, Shaw isn't where he is without Harbaugh, and don't give me the "Well you don't know that Shaw wouldn't have also resurrected Stanford". I think Harbaugh is overrated in a lot of ways, but you can't say enough about what he did there. He gave Shaw the keys and all he's had to do is not wreck it. Harbaugh would've won those conference titles himself if he was there, too.

That doesn't matter. What matters is what Shaw has been able to do with it.
 

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Harbaugh's kids that he couldn't win the Pac with, but Shaw could?
Harbaugh's kids that were freshmen and sophomores when he was still there... ya know, kids tend to get better the longer they're with a program, right?
 

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Jeezuz Michigan peeps are all over this board. When they lose the first game of the year, they're gonna sink like a lead zeppelin. Of course, they'll prolly' still win the Big 10.
 

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Harbaugh's kids that were freshmen and sophomores when he was still there... ya know, kids tend to get better the longer they're with a program, right?

So kids that Shaw basically developed?
 
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