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So it seems as though everyone sucks this year.

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With Braxton Miller and Noah Spence still in the lineup, they probably did. In CFB, your quarterback is everything.

A healthy Braxton Miller wouldn't have made our o-line magically competent in the V-Tech game.
 

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A healthy Braxton Miller wouldn't have made our o-line magically competent in the V-Tech game.

A healthy Miller wouldn't have had 20 incompletions & 3 int's either. But JT is getting better week by week. No use looking back at the VT loss. Yeah it was a bad one but can't change things now.
 

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ND vs. FSU in a couple of weeks could be huge. FSU will have no issues with the Cuse, but I've had a bad feeling about this UNC game all year. After a rivalry game, before the biggest game of the year. Classic trap. UNC has a good offense and I don't fully trust ND's yet.

unc's defense is pathetic. hopefully this is the game that gets the offense going
 
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A healthy Miller wouldn't have had 20 incompletions & 3 int's either. But JT is getting better week by week. No use looking back at the VT loss. Yeah it was a bad one but can't change things now.

Those numbers are inflated by the fact that he was running for his life after nearly every snap in the second half. I don't see Miller doing much better in that position.
 

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Yet if ND gets left out of the mix when dropping a game, we might see you change your tune. :whistle:

nope. the regular season is what makes college football so great. 16 team playoff makes weeks like this past one meaningless
 

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I think it's just a combination of parity and the rankings overrating some teams.
 

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Those numbers are inflated by the fact that he was running for his life after nearly every snap in the second half. I don't see Miller doing much better in that position.

With Miller's 3 years of experience at QB compared to JT's 2nd college game I have no doubt Miller's #'s would have been much better. Not saying the Buckeyes would have won though.
 

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I absolutely do believe they could beat ANY team in the country. No doubt in my mind. They have yet to play a complete team game. One of the 3 phases has been off in every game. Ok state was special teams, Clemson offense, NC State defense 1st quarter, Wake offense.

And please tell where they "struggled". Ok State? They laid off with a 17 point lead. Everyone knew that. Clemson? No starting QB. Do you think it would have been that close with Winston? NC State? Struggle for 1 quarter and then blow them the fuck out 49-17.

Listen I know you want FSU and more to the point WINSTON to lose a game, but man you keep stretching to find any reason to say something negative. 21 wins in a row and undefeated this year. Nothing anyone can say will take those wins away. If they do lose so be it. But right now they have not.


making excuses doesn't take away the fact they struggled against Okie St, Clemson and NC State.
 

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Have to agree, however you have to admit your boys are not on top of their play at the moment and don't look like the number one team. As I see it, given the talent in the ACC, FSU can not afford to lose a game.

Didn't they win 43-3 yesterday???

How do they not look like a top four team? I can't stand FSU and I hope they die a horrible, horrible death, but who else looks like a number one team besides them or ND?
 

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Lessons available:
1. Pre-season rankings are garbage
Agree.
2. FBS needs at least a sixteen-team playoff
Disagree.

The only logic that leads to supporting a larger playoff format after a bunch of top teams lose, by necessity has to include a premise that losses shouldn't matter. And that is a premise that should always be rejected.
 

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Complete excuses.

having a team score 41 points on you is struggling.
 

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Didn't they win 43-3 yesterday???

How do they not look like a top four team? I can't stand FSU and I hope they die a horrible, horrible death, but who else looks like a number one team besides them or ND?

Yes, they conquered Mighty Wake Forest yesterday. :lol: Didn't look good against NC St, Clemson( Winston didn't play) and that should not have mattered. Oklahoma State game was no run away. I think they have too much talent to be winning that way. I never said they didn't deserve the Nr 1 ranking, just said they don't look like NR 1 team to me and I suspect many of the FSU followers, coaches and even the players agree with that. I definitely think Notre Dame is not a Top 4 team and believe on the 18th FSU will be showing them the door.
 

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Yes, they conquered Mighty Wake Forest yesterday. :lol: Didn't look good against NC St, Clemson( Winston didn't play) and that should not have mattered. Oklahoma State game was no run away. I think they have too much talent to be winning that way. I never said they didn't deserve the Nr 1 ranking, just said they don't look like NR 1 team to me and I suspect many of the FSU followers, coaches and even the players agree with that. I definitely think Notre Dame is not a Top 4 team and believe on the 18th FSU will be showing them the door.

Meh. Whatevs. Not in the habit of defending a team like the Criminoles.
 

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