Ravens fired their offensive coordinator

[NWPATSFAN]

I won't say he was the only problem with the offense, but his play calling really hurt them this season.

Flacco should not have to throw 40+ times a game when the running game was working. They should be able to take more shots down the field with Wallace and Perriman and Moore on the team.

Funny enough, Cam Cameron was fired in 2012 after the Ravens lost to the Redskins, then they won the SB

Get used to it under a Mornhinweg offense. That's all he likes to do.

 

[Oldschool739]

I love winning ugly, but it finally caught up with the Ravens.

I was flipping around and didn't stay on the WAS-BAL game long, I saw a lot of BAL last possession, but winning in BAL is always a good win.

That's only when we win if you ask me....

 

[Oldschool739]

Get used to it under a Mornhinweg offense. That's all he likes to do.

I don't know that much about him but that he worked under Andy in Philly and Harbs is real familiar with him...
What troubles me is, if he is better than Trestman, and I don't think that takes a whole lot, why didn't Harbs hire him in the first place to call the plays ????
I think Harbs job is weighing in the balance this season, so either he has a winning season and stays or loses and gets the can....
Bad news for NE is, Josh would probably be #1 on our shopping list....Well mine anyway !!

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I don't know that much about him but that he worked under Andy in Philly and Harbs is real familiar with him...
What troubles me is, if he is better than Trestman, and I don't think that takes a whole lot, why didn't Harbs hire him in the first place to call the plays ????
I think Harbs job is weighing in the balance this season, so either he has a winning season and stays or loses and gets the can....
Bad news for NE is, Josh would probably be #1 on our shopping list....Well mine anyway !!

They were talking about it on one of the sports shows this morning. They were joking that the HC would need to remind him they had RBs on the team.
We're getting used to people stealing the assistant coaches. Strange they move on and have had very little success.

 

[Oldschool739]

They were talking about it on one of the sports shows this morning. They were joking that the HC would need to remind him they had RBs on the team.
We're getting used to people stealing the assistant coaches. Strange they move on and have had very little success.

I know the feeling, ours have had some success, but Kubes is our only SB winner.

 

[Rex Racer]

Thank god.

They should have dumped the shitty QB instead.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Didn't they do this a few years ago? Fire the OC midseason?

 

[Money]

Didn't they do this a few years ago? Fire the OC midseason?

Yes...in 2012 they fired Cameron and Caldwell took over.

It's pretty freakin' simple. Keep Flacco under center (instead of in the shotgun) and utilize play-action. Keep him to 25-30 throws a game and allow him to take his shots downfield.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I don't know that much about him but that he worked under Andy in Philly and Harbs is real familiar with him...
What troubles me is, if he is better than Trestman, and I don't think that takes a whole lot, why didn't Harbs hire him in the first place to call the plays ????
I think Harbs job is weighing in the balance this season, so either he has a winning season and stays or loses and gets the can....
Bad news for NE is, Josh would probably be #1 on our shopping list....Well mine anyway !!

Are you serious? Harbs is on the hotseat?

It is a bit odd if too much passing was the reason he got canned....Morningweg was known as sort of pass happy OC in PHI and he had Shaddy McCoy to habd the ball to.

I will say successful though...he got Vick to be a halfway decent pocket QB....Joe likes the deep ball and MW is sort of dink and dunk OFC...will be interesting to see how it works out.

 

[Oldschool739]

Are you serious? Harbs is on the hotseat?

It is a bit odd if too much passing was the reason he got canned....Morningweg was known as sort of pass happy OC in PHI and he had Shaddy McCoy to habd the ball to.

I will say successful though...he got Vick to be a halfway decent pocket QB....Joe likes the deep ball and MW is sort of dink and dunk OFC...will be interesting to see how it works out.

Yea, I think if Harbs produces another losing season after a 3-0 start, he could be replaced...
But what I've read about Marty is that he will used his strong points to the fullest in each game whether run first, dink and dunk, or air it out....If the opposition has a weakness, you attack it, and keep on attacking it until they stop you....Trestman seemed to get an idea of what he wanted to do and keep trying it against the other teams strengths.....I really don't think Marty can be any worse, that offense reminded me of the Kyle Boller days..Scary bad !!!

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Yea, I think if Harbs produces another losing season after a 3-0 start, he could be replaced...
But what I've read about Marty is that he will used his strong points to the fullest in each game whether run first, dink and dunk, or air it out....If the opposition has a weakness, you attack it, and keep on attacking it until they stop you....Trestman seemed to get an idea of what he wanted to do and keep trying it against the other teams strengths.....I really don't think Marty can be any worse, that offense reminded me of the Kyle Boller days..Scary bad !!!

Wow, 4 seasons removed from a SB win...huh...I thought the Ravens kind of purged the squad after that and it might take 3 or 4 yrs to the roster back ready for another run.

Well I don't expect a losing season, but there a 7 tough games on the backend of the schedule...imo Morningwig might be able to change up a few things but changing terminology, etc in mid season and expect it to be smooth seems far fetched.

 

[beardown07]

Joey Flacco - Elite Coordinator killer

Trestman is far from elite.


Like Northern Canada, far.

 

[Oldschool739]

Wow, 4 seasons removed from a SB win...huh...I thought the Ravens kind of purged the squad after that and it might take 3 or 4 yrs to the roster back ready for another run.

Well I don't expect a losing season, but there a 7 tough games on the backend of the schedule...imo Morningwig might be able to change up a few things but changing terminology, etc in mid season and expect it to be smooth seems far fetched.

The terminology will be the same, it's the play calling that will be different, not the plays...Same thing Caldwell did with Cam's playbook in 2012....We will see the run more and the deep shots downfield that have been missing...
Trestman wasn't patient enough to wait for the opportunity, he tried to force it at his will...He's been bad from the start, good riddance...

 

[redseat]

I won't say he was the only problem with the offense, but his play calling really hurt them this season.

Flacco should not have to throw 40+ times a game when the running game was working. They should be able to take more shots down the field with Wallace and Perriman and Moore on the team.

Funny enough, Cam Cameron was fired in 2012 after the Ravens lost to the Redskins, then they won the SB

Sure he may "call" they plays.. But isn't it the job of the QB to read the defense and change the play if neccessary?

 

[blue_suns]

Sure he may "call" they plays.. But isn't it the job of the QB to read the defense and change the play if neccessary?

To a point, not sure a QB can ignore/override the OC all game.

When Flacco ran the hurry-up offense and was basically calling his own plays, the offense was much more effective.

 

[redseat]

To a point, not sure a QB can ignore/override the OC all game.

When Flacco ran the hurry-up offense and was basically calling his own plays, the offense was much more effective.

Yeah I suppose a QB can't always overrule his OC but like you said, when it is working when a QB does it then he should be allowed to continue to do it... Especially if it is effective...

 

[redseat]

Espinosa should just stand there at the plate

 

[Broncos6482]

I don't know that much about him but that he worked under Andy in Philly and Harbs is real familiar with him...
What troubles me is, if he is better than Trestman, and I don't think that takes a whole lot, why didn't Harbs hire him in the first place to call the plays ????
I think Harbs job is weighing in the balance this season, so either he has a winning season and stays or loses and gets the can....
Bad news for NE is, Josh would probably be #1 on our shopping list....Well mine anyway !!

Really? It would be a big mistake to fire him IMO.

 

[BeaReylo]

Joey Flacco - Elite Coordinator killer

He's still ain't got nothing on Jason Campbell who was a head coach killer.

 

[chf]

Trestman is far from elite.


Like Northern Canada, far.

Zing.

That landed a bit south of the 49th parallel.

He was a very good coach in Montreal, but he also had the (at the time) preeminent QB in the CFL. So that helps.