Rankings Game

[Ram Tough]

Sept 1st Fuzz

 

[Yellow Fuzzies]

Sept 1st Fuzz

Got mine ready. Just waiting until the last minute to post just in case.

 

[TKOSpikes]

Got mine ready. Just waiting until the last minute to post just in case.

I would say that's a good decision. I'm wishing I didn't rank anything yet. I feel like I won't be liking the results.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

RBs:

1 Adrian Peterson
2 Jamaal Charles
3 Arian Foster
4 Doug Martin
5 C.J. Spiller
6 Marshawn Lynch
7 Ray Rice
8 LeSean McCoy
9 Alfred Morris
10 Steven Jackson
11 Matt Forte
12 Trent Richardson
13 Chris Johnson
14 Darren McFadden
15 Reggie Bush
16 Frank Gore
17 Stevan Ridley
18 Maurice Jones Drew
19 Lamar Miller
20 DeMarco Murray
21 Darren Sproles
22 Chris Ivory
23 David Wilson
24 Montee Ball
25 Le'Veon Bell
26 Ryan Matthews
27 Ahmad Bradshaw
28 Eddie Lacy
29 Shane Vereen
30 BenJarvus Green-Ellis
31 Andre Brown
32 Daryl Richardson
33 Mark Ingram
34 Rashard Mendenhall
35 Jonathan Stewart
36 DeAngelo Williams

Id also like to make an adjustment - remove Stewart and replace with Dwyer, move Bell to 29, behind Vereen, and flip flop Lacy/Ivory......ok, Ill just try to get to this in the next day or two and repost whole list, lol

 

[TREFF]

RB
1. Adrian Peterson
2. Doug Martin
3. Arian Foster
4. Jamaal Charles
5. CJ Spiller
6. Trent Richardson
7. Marshawn Lynch
8. Ray Rice
9. Lesean McCoy
10. Alfred Morris
11. Steven Jackson
12. Darren McFadden
13. Steven Ridley
14. Chris Johnson
15. Matt Forte
16. DeMarco Murray
17. David Wilson
18. Reggie Bush
19. Frank Gore
20. Giovani Bernard
21. Lamaar Miller
22. Montee Ball
23. Chris Ivory
24. Rashard Mendenhall
25. Ahmed Bradshaw
26. Darren Sproles
27. Muarice Jones Drew
28. Ryan mathews
29. Eddie Lacy
30. Shane Vareen
31. DeAngelo Williams
32. Darryle Richardson
33. Bernard Peirce
34. Bryce Brown
35. Justin Forsett
36. Mark Ingram

QB
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Drew Brees
3. Peyton Manning
4. Colin Keapernick
5. Matt Ryan
6. Tom Brady
7. Cam Newton
8. Matt Stafford
9. Tony Romo
10. Russel Wilson
11. RGIII
12. Andrew Luck
13. Eli Manning
14. Andy Dalton
15. Jay Cutler
16. Joe Flacco
17. Josh Freeman
18. Big Ben Roethlisberger
19. Phillip Rivers
20. SAm Bradford
21. Matt Schuab
22. Ryan Tannehill
23. Alex Smith
24. Brandon Weedon

 

[Sam Sportboy]

Yeh, I'm probably gonna change mine too........so much for the early bird

 

[ZepTepi]

This is a thread for the MBBRL Rankings Game.

This year we'll rank 24 QBs and 36 RBs, and score them by how far off they are off from reality through the whole season. Higher ranks will be weighted more heavily than lower ranks (so the lowest-ranked will barely make a difference).

Scores are bigger the closer you are, get smaller as you get to zero at six spots off, and then go increasingly negative - so going way wrong in your top picks costs you big time, just as it does in fantasy. Gotta get 'em in by September 1st.

(Passing TDs counted at 6 pts.)

For fun we'll throw in some experts from the major sites.

Last year's champ was Ram Tough.

Is this open to anyone and what are the specifics? ie rules, scoring, ect

 

[wilwhite]

Jump in ZepTepi.

Rules are simple: you rank your top 24 QBs and top 36 RBs by Sept 1st and watch how it falls out through Week 17 as compared to actual fantasy scoring results (i.e. last year Brees ended up #1, Rodgers #2, Brady #3, Peyton #4....)

But we watch how it's going each week, like a horse race.

Scoring isn't so simple. It's weighted, but before weighting, for each player, it's:
Exact match: 6 pts
One spot off: 5 pts
Two spots off: 4 pts
Three spots off: 3 pts
Four spots off: 2 pts
Five spots off : 1 pt
Six spots off: 0 pts
Seven spots off: -1 pt
Eight spots off: -2 pts
Nine spots off: -3 pts
...all the way up to -18 pts for being 24 spots off (where it maxes out)

Weighting has to do with squares:
((25 minus ranking)squared)/100 for QBs
(((37 minus ranking)*3/2))squared)/100 for RBs

Which falls steep at first and then more gradually.
1st QB weight: 5.76
2nd QB weight: 5.29
3rd QB weight: 4.84
4th QB weight: 4.41
5th QB weight: 4.00
6th QB weight: 3.61...
9th QB weight: 2.25...
12th QB weight: 1.69...
18th QB weight: 0.49...
24th QB weight: 0.01

RBs come out similar, but a little more gradual:
1st RB: 5.76
2nd RB: 5.44
3rd RB: 5.14
4th RB: 4.84...
8th RB: 3.74...
12th RB: 2.78...
16th RB: 1.96...
20th RB: 1.28...
28th RB: 0.36...
36th RB: 0.004

Multiply each score by its weight and add them all together.

Example: say you had Brady ranked #1 last year and Peyton Manning #12. For Brady you were off by 2 spots, so the raw score is 4 points. The weight for a #1 QB pick is 5.76, so you get 4 x 5.76, or 23.04. For Peyton Manning you were off by 8 spots, which gives you a raw score of -2. The weight for the #12 QB pick is 1.69, so you get -2 x 1.69, or -3.38. Those two picks together give you 19.66.

As it turned out last year, a result above zero is pretty decent.

The worst thing you can do is have a terrible pick at #1. Say last year you put Sanchez #1 - your score for that pick would be -103.68, which would really hurt your chances here, just as it would really hurt your chances if that was your QB1 last year in a fantasy league.

 

[Bunkamania]

Bunkamania's QB 24

1. D Brees
2. A Rodgers
3. C Newton
4. P Manning
5. M Stafford
6. T Brady
7. M Ryan
8. A Luck
9. R Wilson
10. C Kaepernick
11. T Romo
12. RGIII
13. A Dalton
14. E Manning
15. M Vick
16. C Palmer
17. J Freeman
18. J Cutler
19. B Roethlisberger
20. S Bradford
21. J Flacco
22. P Rivers
23. R Tannehill
24. M Schaub

RB 36

1. A Peterson
2. D Martin
3. J Charles
4. R Rice
5. C Spiller
6. A Foster
7. T Richardson
8. L McCoy
9. M Lynch
10. M Forte
11. C Johnson
12. R Bush
13. A Morris
14. S Jackson
15. MJD
16. F Gore
17. S Ridley
18. D Murray
19. L Miller
20. DMC
21. D Wilson
22. D Sproles
23. R Matthews
24. C Ivory
25. BGE
26. G Bernard
27. M Ball
28. D Richardson
29. A Bradshaw
30. R Mendenhall
31. E Lacy
32. S Vereen
33. A Brown
34. L Bell
35. M Ingram
36. B Tate

 

[Barilko]

Wil you are raw genius

i posted too early am i allowed to repost or have you put too much work in already with the entries that you already have

as soon as i read better than Ave Joe's post i also should have delayed my entry..

 

[wilwhite]

I ain't done squat yet, Barilko. I'll take everyone's latest, as long as it's in before midnight on the first.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I ain't done squat yet, Barilko. I'll take everyone's latest, as long as it's in before midnight on the first.

hey will, i understand how you are measuring the overall rankings, but are you using a certain sites rankings... if so what site??

 

[wilwhite]

I use the CBS fantasy scoring ("stats"). But it shouldn't matter which site - we're comparing to actual performance. Passing TDs count 6, otherwise standard scoring (1 pt per 25 yards passing, 1pt per 10 yards rushing, -2 fumble lost, -2 interception...).

 

[Barilko]

I ain't done squat yet, Barilko. I'll take everyone's latest, as long as it's in before midnight on the first.

You Bet

 

[TKOSpikes]

TKO's Final List

1. Peyton Manning
2. Drew Brees
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Tom Brady
5. Matt Ryan
6. Andrew Luck
7. Cam Newton
8. Robert Griffin
9. Matthew Stafford
10. Tony Romo
11. Eli Manning
12. Colin Kaepernik
13. Russell Wilson
14. Mike Vick
15. Andy Dalton
16. Jay Cutler
17. Josh Freeman
18. E.J. Manuel
19. Brandon Weeden
20. Carson Palmer
21. Ben Roethlisberger
22. Matt Schaub
23. Sam Bradford
24. Alex Smith


1. Adrian Peterson
2. Doug Martin
3. C.J. Spiller
4. LeSean McCoy
5. Trent Richardson
6. Ray Rice
7. Arian Foster
8. Marshawn Lynch
9. Alfred Morris
10. Jamaal Charles
11. Darren McFadden
12. Steven Jackson
13. Chris Johnson
14. Matt Forte
15. Maurice Jones-Drew
16. Stevan Ridley
17. Frank Gore
18. Giovani Bernard
19. Ahmad Bradshaw
20. DeMarco Murray
21. Reggie Bush
22. Eddie Lacy
23. Lamar Miller
24. David Wilson
25. Montee Ball
26. Ryan Mathews
27. Darren Sproles
28. Shane Vereen
29. DeAngelo Williams
30. Rashard Mendenhall
31. Daryl Richardson
32. Bilal Powell
33. Chris Ivory
34. Danny Woodhead
35. Ben Tate
36. Fred Jackson


There. Done. No more second guessing myself, heck two drafts are already in the bag and I'm still wavering on some! My money draft is underway (1st round is draft choice/pick), but Saturday is the big night for me. Currently in the 10th hole.

 

[tlance]

Here are mine:

RBs
1. Spiller- That's right, this is someone besides AP.
2. AP- I would still draft him first though. Safety matters.
3. Martin- Young stud can do it all
4. Foster- Run based offense and he will still get plenty of touches in the red zone
5. McCoy- Offensive line looks good and Vick is back.
6. TRich- Great young player. Hopefully he can stay healthy this year.
7. Forte- Predicting big things in a new offense behind a much improved Oline.
8. Charles- Will the TDs be there?
9. Rice- His drop is more due to ascension of others
10. CJ1K- He bounces back some behind a better line
11. Morris- Steady producer. Could see more goal line attempts this year.
12. Lynch- Michael is very good. Will take some touches from Lynch as the Hawks keep him fresh.
13. SJax- will get the TDs, but the yards will lag behind the elite.
14. MJD- Could be higher if he plays 16
15. Ridley- Solid but unspectacular RB2
16. Bush- Touches should be there, will the TDs?
17. Miller- Miami workhorse has top 10 upside
18. Wilson- would be top 10 if not for Brown.
19. Gore- Bankable RB2 production.
20. Lacy- Looks like the man in GB. How much will they run it?
21. Bernard- BJGE gets the TDs or he would be higher
22. Ball- Hardest rookie to rank.
23. Sproles-
24. D. Williams- Bell cow in Carolina
25. L. Bell- Hurt now, but will make up for lost time in the 2nd half
26. Murray- Will be hurt at some point
27. Bradshaw- could be a lot higher if he stays healthy
28. Richardson- I have a hard time believing he is a workhorse type.
29. Tate- The Texans run enough to support 2 top 30 guys.
30. Ingram- TDs will carry his value
31. Vereen- Sproles of NE
32. McFadden- Just don't believe in the Raiders or DMC anymore
33. Mathews- See McFadden
34. Andre Brown- TDs will be there
35. Pierce- He will get a lot more touches as a Rice reliever this year.
36. BJGE- TDs


QBs
1. Brees
2. Rogers
3. Peyton Manning
4. Brady
5. Vick- Crazy I know
6. Matt Ryan
7. Kaepernick
8. Cam Newton
9. Luck
10. Stafford
11. Romo
12. RG3
13. Wilson
14. Cutler
15. E. Manning
16. Dalton
17. Big Ben
18. Weeden
19. Bradford
20. Schaub
21. Palmer
22. Freeman
23. Manuel
24. Flacco

 

[Yellow Fuzzies]

Fuzzy ranks

QBs
1 Brees
2 Rodgers
3 Stafford
4 Brady
5 P Manning
6 Ryan
7 Kaepernick
8 Romo
9 Newton
10 Griffin III
11 Luck
12 Wilson
13 Vick
14 E Manning
15 Dalton
16 Schaub
17 Cutler
18 Palmer
19 Freeman
20 Big Ben
21 Flacco
22 Bradford
23 A Smith
24 Rivers


RBs
1 Petersen
2 Martin
3 Spiller
4 Richardson
5 Lynch
6 Foster
7 Charles
8 Forte
9 Morris
10 Rice
11 McCoy
12 MJD
13 CJ1K
14 D Murray
15 S Jackson
16 Ridley
17 Gore
18 Sproels
19 Matthews
20 D Wilson
21 McFadden
22 L Miller
23 R Mendenhall
24 A Bradshaw
25 Lacy
26 D Williams
27 R Bush
28 G Bernard
29 D Richardson
30 Ivory
31 Vereen
32 A Brown
33 M Ball
34 Tate
35 F Jackson
36 V Ballard

 

[Yellow Fuzzies]

Sorry Will- revised RB rankings

Fuzzy ranks

RBs
1 Petersen
2 Martin
3 Spiller
4 Richardson
5 Lynch
6 Foster
7 Charles
8 Forte
9 Morris
10 Rice
11 McCoy
12 MJD
13 CJ1K
14 D Wilson
15 D Murray
16 S Jackson
17 Ridley
18 Gore
19 Sprowls
20 Matthews
21 McFadden
22 L Miller
23 R Mendenhall
24 A Bradshaw
25 Lacy
26 D Williams
27 R Bush
28 G Bernard
29 D Richardson
30 Ivory
31 Vereen
32 A Brown
33 M Ball
34 Tate
35 F Jackson
36 V Ballard

 

[Yellow Fuzzies]

Final revised RB list- Sorry again Will

Fuzzy ranks

RBs
1 Petersen
2 Martin
3 Spiller
4 Richardson
5 Lynch
6 Foster
7 Charles
8 Forte
9 Morris
10 Rice
11 McCoy
12 MJD
13 CJ1K
14 D Wilson
15 D Murray
16 S Jackson
17 Ridley
18 Gore
19 Sproels
20 Matthews
21 McFadden
22 L Miller
23 R Mendenhall
24 A Bradshaw
25 Lacy
26 D Williams
27 R Bush
28 G Bernard
29 D Richardson
30 Ivory
31 Vereen
32 M Ball
33 Tate
34 V Ballard
35 F Jackson
36 BJGE

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Milk spillers rankings

RBs
1 Peterson, Adrian
2 Arian foster
3 Richardson, Trent
4 Spiller, C.J.
5 McCoy, LeSean
6 Charles, Jamaal
7 Martin, Doug
8 Rice, Ray BAL
9 Johnson, Chris
10 Lynch, Marshawn
11 Forte, Matt CHI
12 Morris, Alfred
13 Wilson, David
14 Bush, Reggie
15 Ridley, Stevan
16 Murray, DeMarco
17 Jackson, Steven
18 Jones-Drew, Maurice
19 Sproles, Darren
20 Miller, Lamar
21 Gore, Frank
22 Lacy, Eddie
23 Bernard, Giovani
24 Ball, Montee
25 Richardson, Dary
26 McFadden, Darren
27 Chris Ivory
28 Bradshaw, Ahmad
29 shane vereen
30 Ben Tate
31 Williams, DeAngelo
32. Ryan Mathews
33 Leveon bell
34 Mendenhall, Rashard
35 Michael, Christine
36 Rodgers, Jacquizz


QBs
1 Aaron Rodgers
2 Drew Brees
3 Manning, Peyton
4 Newton, Cam
5 Brady, Tom
6 Ryan, Matt
7 Kaepernick, Colin
8 Romo, Tony
9 stafford, Matthew
10 Vick, Michael
11 Luck, Andrew
12 Manning, Eli
13 Griffin III, Robert
14 Dalton, Andy
15 Weeden, Brandon
16 Wilson, Russell
17 Cutler, Jay
18 Roethlisberger, Ben
19 Palmer, Carson
20 Bradford, Sam
21 Flacco, Joe
22 Locker, Jake
23 Rivers, Philip
24 Pryor, Terrelle