Raiders fire HC Josh McDaniels AND GM Dave Ziegler

[shopson67]

I doubt it. They were trying to unload him 2 years ago and he only played last year because Lance got hurt and they were stuck with Jimmy until he inevitably got hurt. They will stick with Purdy now because he's uber cheap.

I was thinking as a backup. Can't imagine a lot of demand for Jimmy otherwise, could be a fail-safe landing spot.

 

[fastforward]

33.75 million, not 40.5 mill. Average money for a starting QB.

Jimmy Garoppolo

Jimmy Garoppolo contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

www.spotrac.com

Carr's 2023 salary with the Raiders would have been fully guaranteed as would have been some of his money in 2024. Retaining him would have guaranteed him $40.5M - with a no-trade clause.

Garoppolo could be released after 2023, (as could any QB), but $11.25M of his $24.25M due is fully guaranteed. Paying him $11.25M to go away when there's $13M more to pay for 2024 seems unlikely at this point. Finding another team willing to take on the whole $24.25M is also unlikely. Another team being prepared to give up trade capital for Garoppolo at $13M+ is much more realistic.

$33.75M isn't average money for a starting QB in 2023. If it was the franchise tag would be higher than $32.416M.

 

[belcherboy]

I don't know if it has been said in this post, but could this have been done so quickly because of Michigan putting Harbaugh's contract extension on hold?

Could the Raiders have fired everyone and sent Harbaugh a secret message basically telling him that the job is his if he wants to forego the contract extension with Michigan?

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

I don't know if it has been said in this post, but could this have been done so quickly because of Michigan putting Harbaugh's contract extension on hold?

Could the Raiders have fired everyone and sent Harbaugh a secret message basically telling him that the job is his if he wants to forego the contract extension with Michigan?

THat's actually an interesting thought. I don't know if there are tampering rules or anything that prevents them from pre-empting the off-season hiring frenzy but Davis obviously has something that he's looking at. Harbaugh is going to be coveted by a few teams, for sure.

 

[Duffman]

I don't know if it has been said in this post, but could this have been done so quickly because of Michigan putting Harbaugh's contract extension on hold?

Could the Raiders have fired everyone and sent Harbaugh a secret message basically telling him that the job is his if he wants to forego the contract extension with Michigan?

Pretty sure the Raiders cant afford Harbaugh because Mark Davis is the poorest owner in the league and he’s on the hook for at least $80 million for what he owes Gruden and McDaniels combined.

 

[THUNDER]

I wonder how much Adams had to do with this.
He's been upset with his role, or lack thereof, and did anyone else notice how fast he got off the field after the last game?.
He basically sprinted to the locker room.
I bet dude went the EF off to somebody who matters in that organization and said " get rid of this ass-clown or I'll take my ball and go home" !

 

[PDay8810]

I wonder how much Adams had to do with this.
He's been upset with his role, or lack thereof, and did anyone else notice how fast he got off the field after the last game?.
He basically sprinted to the locker room.
I bet dude went the EF off to somebody who matters in that organization and said " get rid of this ass-clown or I'll take my ball and go home" !

great point and IMO, the worst part of team sports in today's world. It's as if these guys think of themselves as professional golfer or tennis.

TEAM SPORT

 

[THUNDER]

great point and IMO, the worst part of team sports in today's world. It's as if these guys think of themselves as professional golfer or tennis.

TEAM SPORT

I agree, problem is, with what they are paying these dudes today, they have a voice.
Adams is looking at his career starting to slide and he wants the ball and a ring.
And he is probably not the only one.
For all we know Davis might have had a mutiny on his hands if he didn't do something dramatic.

 

[PDay8810]

I agree, problem is, with what they are paying these dudes today, they have a voice.
Adams is looking at his career starting to slide and he wants the ball and a ring.
And he is probably not the only one.
For all we know Davis might have had a mutiny on his hands if he didn't do something dramatic.

yes Sir

get all the $$ you can then shut up and be what they pay so well to do.

Cee Dee two weeks ago went in house to discuss his targets, as reported four days later while the Eagles all time great receiver blew his gasget four weeks ago for the world to see. LOL

now philly has to win the game and make sure their star gets his 125.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

I wonder how much Adams had to do with this.
He's been upset with his role, or lack thereof, and did anyone else notice how fast he got off the field after the last game?.
He basically sprinted to the locker room.
I bet dude went the EF off to somebody who matters in that organization and said " get rid of this ass-clown or I'll take my ball and go home" !

There was a report supposedly that Davis called a few players and discussed some things. Adams, Jacobs and Crosby's names were mentioned. I think Marc Davis could see that things couldn't go on the way they were. It was obvious to anyone watching their games that the players were fed up. Adams was the most talked about and shown by the media but that locker room had to be toxic as hell.

 

[thedddd]

Another change with the firings. Jimmy eggshells is benched.

Raiders To Bench Jimmy Garoppolo, Start Aidan O'Connell In Week 9

NOVEMBER 3: Garoppolo will see his time atop the depth chart come to an end, but he will remain in the …

www.profootballrumors.com

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

The Raiders have replaced Washington as the most dysfunctional organization in the league. They are paying $80 million for 2 people not to coach their team.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Sorry if this has already been linked, but apparently few Raider players shed any tears over McDaniels getting canned:

Raiders players seem pretty happy Josh McDaniels was fired

The Raiders let McDaniels go earlier this week.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[eaglesnut]

I wonder how much Adams had to do with this.
He's been upset with his role, or lack thereof, and did anyone else notice how fast he got off the field after the last game?.
He basically sprinted to the locker room.
I bet dude went the EF off to somebody who matters in that organization and said " get rid of this ass-clown or I'll take my ball and go home" !

He might have and it might have worked. He was pissed off. Can you imagine still in his jersey yelling at the front office. Wish I could see it.

 

[eaglesnut]

great point and IMO, the worst part of team sports in today's world. It's as if these guys think of themselves as professional golfer or tennis.

TEAM SPORT

What is Adams supposed to do, call the plays and throw it to himself?

 

[PDay8810]

What is Adams supposed to do, call the plays and throw it to himself?

you wouldn't understand. Requires experience in competitive sports

 

[megalodon30]

Interesting that the Raiders are favorites after firing McD.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Interesting that the Raiders are favorites after firing McD.

or after the benching of Jimmy G

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Interesting that the Raiders are favorites after firing McD.

or after the benching of Jimmy G

Methinks a combination of both. Plus a lot of those players seem to be really fired up. Of course, playing the Giants is always helpful.

 

[Dude]

Watched the Q1, Raiders looked better than they did last week.