The East is going to be a race between PSU, OSU and Michigan. Michigan should have a pretty good team and gets both OSU and MSU at home.
You are losing, what, 18 starters, 10 of which were defense? You still have a mediocre game manager under center and no real home run threat at running back. You may end up being pretty good but it is definitely not something you can say with any certainty now.The East is going to be a race between PSU, OSU and Michigan. Michigan should have a pretty good team and gets both OSU and MSU at home.
Yes, but "starter" is a bit ambiguous. Guys replacing the "starters" on D-line are Mone, Hurst and Winovich. All three played in at least 10 games last season Hurst and Winovich in 12+. Both landing in the top 10 on the team in terms of tackles; both above returning "starter" Rashan Gary. The same thing can be said about many positions on both offense and defense, except probably LB. So I'm not too worried about losing "starters" as many of the guys behind them saw significant playing time and theoretically have more raw talent than the players they're replacing.You are losing, what, 18 starters, 10 of which were defense? You still have a mediocre game manager under center and no real home run threat at running back. You may end up being pretty good but it is definitely not something you can say with any certainty now.
You are losing, what, 18 starters, 10 of which were defense? You still have a mediocre game manager under center and no real home run threat at running back. You may end up being pretty good but it is definitely not something you can say with any certainty now.
We've already discussed this. michigan is in worse shape than OSU was last season in regards to lost personnel. Nearly every major playmaker on both sides of the ball has left. Your defensive backfield is a mess. Your DL will be fine, but it won't matter against OSU, and PSU is going to be a problem for you in Happy Valley as well. Speight is still mediocre at best, and your WRs/TEs/RBs are all very green. There is "talent" in regards to star rankings, but very little in terms of actual substance on the field.The East is going to be a race between PSU, OSU and Michigan. Michigan should have a pretty good team and gets both OSU and MSU at home.
I still maintain that enough players played last season where they aren't as fresh as people make them out to be. The RB position is a great example of losing a starter where the backups not only have a good amount of experience, but out performed the starter last season.We've already discussed this. michigan is in worse shape than OSU was last season in regards to lost personnel. Nearly every major playmaker on both sides of the ball has left. Your defensive backfield is a mess. Your DL will be fine, but it won't matter against OSU, and PSU is going to be a problem for you in Happy Valley as well. Speight is still mediocre at best, and your WRs/TEs/RBs are all very green. There is "talent" in regards to star rankings, but very little in terms of actual substance on the field.
OSU and PSU are clearly 1 and 2, and michigan is a notch or two below. 2018 is a different story, but this is not going to be michigan's year.
Right, because VT would've had no problem beating OSU by 14 by the end of the season in 2014, too. That was one of your stupider comments.I still maintain that enough players played last season where they aren't as fresh as people make them out to be. The RB position is a great example of losing a starter where the backups not only have a good amount of experience, but out performed the starter last season.
I'm also not concerned about a team we beat by 39 points last year.
Penn St.
Ohio St.
Michigan
Michigan St.
Maryland
Indiana
Rutgers
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Northwestern
Iowa
Illinois
Purdue
Minnesota
Penn St. over Wisconsin in the CCG.
Given where we were two years ago, that's an impressive feat. I believe a lot of those guys have Harbaugh to thank for their NFL stock.Right, because VT would've had no problem beating OSU by 14 by the end of the season in 2014, too. That was one of your stupider comments.
Maybe michigan will be OK. However, keep in mind Harbaugh hasn't won more than 10 games in his two years, and that was with tons of experienced, NFL-level talent at key positions.
Great. Now explain to me what bearing that has when playing a talented, top 10 team returning a ton of talent next year and playing them on the road? You'll lose. Again, one of your dumber comments.Given where we were two years ago, that's an impressive feat. I believe a lot of those guys have Harbaugh to thank for their NFL stock.
Because Michigan has more talent.Great. Now explain to me what bearing that has when playing a talented, top 10 team returning a ton of talent next year and playing them on the road? You'll lose. Again, one of your dumber comments.
Expect 8-4, hope for 10-2 if you're a michigan fan. Or just be disappointed again.
You are losing, what, 18 starters, 10 of which were defense? You still have a mediocre game manager under center and no real home run threat at running back. You may end up being pretty good but it is definitely not something you can say with any certainty now.
Nope.Because Michigan has more talent.
Right, because VT would've had no problem beating OSU by 14 by the end of the season in 2014, too. That was one of your stupider comments.
Maybe michigan will be OK. However, keep in mind Harbaugh hasn't won more than 10 games in his two years, and that was with tons of experienced, NFL-level talent at key positions.
Good grief these unbalanced conference schedules suck. How the hell can you really tell who is the CC? Last year Wisconsin's got the shaft in the crossover. Who's gettin' screwed this year?I would be stunned if Wisconsin didn't win the West, not only are they probably the best team, they get Indiana and Maryland from the East and Michigan at home.
and your mom is fatter than my mom...same relevance, right?
And this year they may even have QBs on par with the quality of the rest of their positions. Game over if that is the case IMHO.The one team who gets away with nothing spectacular at QB and still chase titles yearly is Alabama and no team can recruit like them.