Pacers fire Nate

[bksballer89]

Dont have your best player available in the playoffs in b2b years and you lose your job. What a joke

 

[Wamu]

Will hurricane put in an application to be the next Pacers coach?

 

[DJ]

Fucking nuts.....he'll get another job pretty damn quickly IMO.

 

[tlance]

Yeah, that is bad.

Some coaches keep their jobs way too long, like Brett Brown, then good coaches like Nate get fired unfairly.

I don’t know what management expectations actually were for the Pacers this season, but IMO they came pretty close to maxing out based on their talent.

They are a good team. Not likely to compete with the top East teams without Sabonis.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Bad organization makes stupid decisions

 

[Myles]

He's always been shit in the playoffs. Career .321.
Worse with the Pacers - 3W 12L.
I'm happy to see him gone.

 

[The Q]

Yeah, that is bad.

Some coaches keep their jobs way too long, like Brett Brown, then good coaches like Nate get fired unfairly.

I don’t know what management expectations actually were for the Pacers this season, but IMO they came pretty close to maxing out based on their talent.

They are a good team. Not likely to compete with the top East teams without Sabonis.

also didn’t have lamb.

 

[Shanemansj13]

He's always been shit in the playoffs. Career .321.
Worse with the Pacers - 3W 12L.
I'm happy to see him gone.

It's easy to just look at the record in the playoffs:

08-09 Lost to Rockets - had McGrady and Yao
09-10 Lost to the Suns - lost to Lakers in WCF's - Nash and Stoudemire
10-11 Lost to the Mavs - won the finals

16-17 lost to the Cavs - made it to the finals
17-18 lost to the Cavs - made it to the finals
18-19 lost to the C's (Kyrie was not injured)
19-20 lost to the Heat

You see a trend? A less superior team, that seemed to overachieve in the regular season, playing a better opponent. Even when they had a so-called "star" in Paul George, they lost to Lebron every year. Right now they have nothing close to a star in Indiana and are probably a first round out with just about any coach especially with Sabonis out.

He also coached Portland. This team had Aldridge and Roy with injuries catching up to Roy. This team was nothing special but they simply just played a team with star(s). You need stars in this league to win...if Indiana doesn't find one, they are going nowhere anytime soon.

 

[Myles]

It's easy to just look at the record in the playoffs:

08-09 Lost to Rockets - had McGrady and Yao
09-10 Lost to the Suns - lost to Lakers in WCF's - Nash and Stoudemire
10-11 Lost to the Mavs - won the finals

16-17 lost to the Cavs - made it to the finals
17-18 lost to the Cavs - made it to the finals
18-19 lost to the C's (Kyrie was not injured)
19-20 lost to the Heat

You see a trend? A less superior team, that seemed to overachieve in the regular season, playing a better opponent. Even when they had a so-called "star" in Paul George, they lost to Lebron every year. Right now they have nothing close to a star in Indiana and are probably a first round out with just about any coach especially with Sabonis out.

He also coached Portland. This team had Aldridge and Roy with injuries catching up to Roy. This team was nothing special but they simply just played a team with star(s). You need stars in this league to win...if Indiana doesn't find one, they are going nowhere anytime soon.

I mostly agree. I think it is more the way the team looked in the playoffs the past few years. Not even competitive.
Indiana will never win a title. They are a pretty well run organization who puts a competitive team on the floor and makes the playoffs every year so a good draft pick isn't going to happen. They are a small market team in a location that is not going to attract the top stars.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[trojanfan12]

Yeah, that is bad.

Some coaches keep their jobs way too long, like Brett Brown, then good coaches like Nate get fired unfairly.

I don’t know what management expectations actually were for the Pacers this season, but IMO they came pretty close to maxing out based on their talent.

They are a good team. Not likely to compete with the top East teams without Sabonis.

Yeah, fully healthy, this team was a 2nd round exit at best. Not sure what their management expected or who they think they can get that would be better.

 

[bksballer89]

Someone had to say it.....

 

[trojanfan12]

I mostly agree. I think it is more the way the team looked in the playoffs the past few years. Not even competitive.
Indiana will never win a title. They are a pretty well run organization who puts a competitive team on the floor and makes the playoffs every year so a good draft pick isn't going to happen. They are a small market team in a location that is not going to attract the top stars.

To be fair, weren't they without their best player the past 2 seasons?

 

[bksballer89]

Shitty franchise

 

[trojanfan12]

Someone had to say it.....

Not sure I agree with that. I'd like to see some stats on that one.

According to this article, it looks like it's just how coaching in the NBA is.

NBA head coaching jobs are increasingly stable

The article is from 11/2019 and says that the average NBA coach this year has been in his job for 3.7 years and that's the highest it's been this decade. That's with Pop skewing the numbers up.

3 teams, the T-Wolves, Kings and Cavs have had 5 coaches in the past decade.

8 teams, the Magic, Lakers, Nets, Knicks, Grizzlies, Suns, Pistons and Hornets have all had 4 coaches in the last decade.

Only the Spurs, Heat and Mavs have not changed head coaches in the past decade.

 

[wildturkey]

Woj says they have interest in D'Antoni

 

[YourFriendGannon]

? I thought they just gave Nate an extension earlier this month.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Woj says they have interest in D'Antoni

Not crazy about that fit but they gotta hire someone.

 

[dtgold88]

Bad organization makes stupid decisions

If I didn't like Bickerstaff and/or we were looking I'd want him here.

 

[dtgold88]

Someone had to say it.....

It's clear?