NFL MVP

[broncosmitty]

the truth is MVP is a lazy reward that basically goes to one of the best teams qb. Based on the results on the field the last few weeks Lamar wins. My vote would be Hill or CMC. But he's currently in the clubhouse lead 4 strokes up on all the other qbs.

An entirely different discussion would be how many qbs would you take before you go to Lamar if you were starting a franchise?

Mahomes and maybe Allen. Maybe. He’s got too much Brett Favre/Matt Stafford in him for me to really want to build a franchise around him.

I’m sure a lot of people would also say Burrow. But I’d take Lamar over him.

 

[Clayton]

Mahomes and maybe Allen. Maybe. He’s got too much Brett Favre/Matt Stafford in him for me to really want to build a franchise around him.

I’m sure a lot of people would also say Burrow. But I’d take Lamar over him.

I'd probably take Burrow and Herbert over Lamar but I can see that backfiring. Maybe Stroud with some more data.

The only reason I say that is the Ravens are kinda known as one of the stronger organizations in general. The Chargers coaches have been embarrassing and Zac Taylor seems kinda iffy.

Still, Lamar Jackson's regular season record speaks for itself. I think you could make the argument for him being near the top.

 

[broncosmitty]

I'd probably take Burrow and Herbert over Lamar but I can see that backfiring. Maybe Stroud with some more data.

The only reason I say that is the Ravens are kinda known as one of the stronger organizations in general. The Chargers coaches have been embarrassing and Zac Taylor seems kinda iffy.

Still, Lamar Jackson's regular season record speaks for itself. I think you could make the argument for him being near the top.

People could say Hurts too. I don’t mean to discount guys like him and Herbert. They have bright futures.

 

[eaglesnut]

well if you refer to his running stats. Then it is important to include his 11 fumbles, not just the yards. Also No team would be a #1 seed without their starting QB. Thats not a Lamar thing.

Jalen Hurts has 15 rushing touchdowns. Lamar has 5. He's got some work to do to pass McCaffrey.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Jalen Hurts has 15 rushing touchdowns. Lamar has 5. He's got some work to do to pass McCaffrey.

if those 15 Tds were Mike Vick like. That would be impressive.
Vulturing the TDs from the RBs from the one yard line. Might as well just credit Kelce (Eagle OL) with those TDs.
Its gotta suck to be an Eagle RB right now.

Eagles RBs work their asses off to get to the one. Hurts struts up. Dont worry guys. I'll take it from here! (just having fun with this last part) LOL

 

[Duffman]

Dak has the stats over Lamar but Jackson has his team in better position.

 

[Battlelyon]

Dak has the stats over Lamar but Jackson has his team in better position.

Dak is 3-5 on the road, Lamar is 7-1

Dak has beaten 3 winning teams, Lamar has beaten 9 winning teams

Of course Dak has beaten zero winning teams on the road

 

[Battlelyon]

Someone must of voted Dak by accident

 

[calsnowskier]

Someone must of voted Dak by accident

Unrelated, I hope everyone of a very nice new year!

(No typo in this post)

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I think it is funny when everyone thinks QBs won or lost the games.
Dallas just lost to the Dolphins. Dak drove down on his drive that counted the most & took the lead with a touchdown pass.
then the defense gave up the final score. He never got back on the field.
Tua drove down & got in FG range.
but because the win/loss seems to only go to the QBs. Dak failed? & Tua had the amazing drive.

I understand that to win the MVP the team has to be one of the better records.
but Tua, Dak, Lamar or whoever shouldnt be counted as losing the game for their team unless they actually failed their team.
Wentz for instance. When he need to score for his team late in the game. Usually came up short. The key was to get Wentz in that position.
These other guys, the goal is not to let them have the ball last.
Dak got his ass kicked by SF & the bills. Which I think will be enough to keep him from winning the award, but Mia & Philly he did well & was 5 TDs to zero INTs. Pretty sure it wasnt Dak that caused those losses.

Just like when the Ravens win, it isnt necessarily because of Lamar. That defense has held teams to 10 points or less 6 times. 10 points. Nopt 20, but 10.
Under 20 points 10 times.
Not hard to do enough to win games when defenses are doing that. but I digress. Lamar is winning all the games.
Tua leads in yards 4214
Purdy still leads in ratings 112.2
Dak leads in Pass TDs 30
Lamar leads in wins 12 (since everyone looks at it this way)
Hurts leads in turnovers (Sorry cant help myself after eagles fans shit talking early in the season about turnovers)

BTW Goff is lurking in most of these categories. Not far behind.
McCaffrey is over 1900 yds scrimmage with 21 TDs

I imagine this thing doesnt get settled until the final games are played.

 

[PDay8810]

Someone must of voted Dak by accident

you're working way to hard

 

[eaglesnut]

I think it is funny when everyone thinks QBs won or lost the games.
Dallas just lost to the Dolphins. Dak drove down on his drive that counted the most & took the lead with a touchdown pass.
then the defense gave up the final score. He never got back on the field.
Tua drove down & got in FG range.
but because the win/loss seems to only go to the QBs. Dak failed? & Tua had the amazing drive.

I understand that to win the MVP the team has to be one of the better records.
but Tua, Dak, Lamar or whoever shouldnt be counted as losing the game for their team unless they actually failed their team.
Wentz for instance. When he need to score for his team late in the game. Usually came up short. The key was to get Wentz in that position.
These other guys, the goal is not to let them have the ball last.
Dak got his ass kicked by SF & the bills. Which I think will be enough to keep him from winning the award, but Mia & Philly he did well & was 5 TDs to zero INTs. Pretty sure it wasnt Dak that caused those losses.

Just like when the Ravens win, it isnt necessarily because of Lamar. That defense has held teams to 10 points or less 6 times. 10 points. Nopt 20, but 10.
Under 20 points 10 times.
Not hard to do enough to win games when defenses are doing that. but I digress. Lamar is winning all the games.
Tua leads in yards 4214
Purdy still leads in ratings 112.2
Dak leads in Pass TDs 30
Lamar leads in wins 12 (since everyone looks at it this way)
Hurts leads in turnovers (Sorry cant help myself after eagles fans shit talking early in the season about turnovers)

BTW Goff is lurking in most of these categories. Not far behind.
McCaffrey is over 1900 yds scrimmage with 21 TDs

I imagine this thing doesnt get settled until the final games are played.

Yeah Goff is not out of it. He has held that team together all year consistently leading them.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Lamar says.
What they say I need more yards & TDs?

Boom! 300+ yds & 5 TDs

 

[Battlelyon]

Lamar shows he is the only answer

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Lamar shows he is the only answer

I'm still voting for Cmac.

What do you mean I dont get a vote?

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Lamar shows he is the only answer

I'm still voting for Cmac.

It does appear at this point to be between these two. Should be interesting to see who wins it.

 

[eaglesnut]

Great showing from Lamar. Best team's QB is always a good option.

 

[Duffman]

Lamar will win but it won’t be unanimous. I can see CMAC getting around 5-10 votes.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

It does appear at this point to be between these two. Should be interesting to see who wins it.

I'm just saying.
If you are gonna vote for a runner. Cmac is the best runner.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Lamar it is