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Is Lebron Most Overrated player EVER?

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As good a player as he is, he's never had that killer-instinct Jordan or Kobe had.

If things fuck up this finals he's 2/5

Pretty sure he'd be 2-4 if he loses this Finals.
 

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I always thought they had the players to compete with the Spurs that year. Lebron just carried his team, literally. He had nothing left and they had no Finals experience.
I agree with the nothing left statement. I see that being the same problem now. Is he going to be able to continue to do what he has done over the next 4-5 game ?
 

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Pretty sure he'd be 2-4 if he loses this Finals.

2-4 and favored in MAYBE 1 of those series??

Even this year, many were calling for a Warrior sweep.

A 3-3 finals record with the supporting casts and opponents he's faced would be extremely impressive.
 

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I agree with the nothing left statement. I see that being the same problem now. Is he going to be able to continue to do what he has done over the next 4-5 game ?

The difference is he has experience now, he has the will and he has the city of Cleveland behind him. If they go down 2-0 and think it makes it that much harder. But I think he starting to trust his teammates more and more. I think he can do this over a series, that year he did it the whole postseason.
 

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Someone tell me why I have never heard of this Lebron character
 

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The difference is he has experience now, he has the will and he has the city of Cleveland behind him. If they go down 2-0 and think it makes it that much harder. But I think he starting to trust his teammates more and more. I think he can do this over a series, that year he did it the whole postseason.
You may be reading this thread with your Cavs colored glasses. The Warriors are deeper and one of the top five teams ever. It is a steep tall mountain he is climbing...
 

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2-4 and favored in MAYBE 1 of those series??

Even this year, many were calling for a Warrior sweep.

A 3-3 finals record with the supporting casts and opponents he's faced would be extremely impressive.
Really? So you are saying LBJ jumped to the wrong team when he picked Miami?
 

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Really? So you are saying LBJ jumped to the wrong team when he picked Miami?

Lebron opting to go to Miami has nothing to do with how good the opponents he's faced in the finals have been.
 

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Lebron opting to go to Miami has nothing to do with how good the opponents he's faced in the finals have been.
It does actually because the unique combination of players he has faced might have been easier to be if he had not been hand picking his own combination of players to face them. Had the gm of each team been permitted to build the team, Lebron may have well won more rings.
 

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Pretty sure he'd be 2-4 if he loses this Finals.
I think he's been to the finals four times already hasn't he. He did go to the finals in Cleveland, lost, then lost to the Dallas in his first year in Miami, then won two straight and lost to the Spurs last year.
 

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I think he's been to the finals four times already hasn't he. He did go to the finals in Cleveland, lost, then lost to the Dallas in his first year in Miami, then won two straight and lost to the Spurs last year.

He's 2-3 in the Finals before this series started. He'll drop to 2-4 when they lose this time.
 

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Look at the team around him in the Finals. Look at the team around Kobe for his 3-peat. He got the wins and he deserved them no doubt, but if Lebron had those kind of teammates he would win EVERY year

Just because he had a great team doesn't guarantee a championship... Same with LeBron
 

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I think he's been to the finals four times already hasn't he. He did go to the finals in Cleveland, lost, then lost to the Dallas in his first year in Miami, then won two straight and lost to the Spurs last year.

This is his 6th finals. 2nd with the Cavs, 4 with the Heat.
 

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He's 2-3 in the Finals before this series started. He'll drop to 2-4 when they lose this time.
This is not correct, I just checked and Lebron James was the leading scorer in his first trip to the finals in 2007 when as a Cavalier his team played and lost to the Spurs. James then returned to the finals with the Heat three straight. I am pretty sure 1 plus three equals 4. If the Cavaliers lose - he will 2-5
 

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This is not correct, I just checked and Lebron James was the leading scorer in his first trip to the finals in 2007 when as a Cavalier his team played and lost to the Spurs. James then returned to the finals with the Heat three straight. I am pretty sure 1 plus three equals 4. If the Cavaliers lose - he will 2-5
I stand corrected, Lebron lost in 2007 against the Spurs as a Cavalier, then won 2 of four with the Heat. He is now 2-5 and will be 2-6 if he loses again. He will go on to the best player in the NBA to lose more finals than he won -:pound:
 

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This is his 6th finals. 2nd with the Cavs, 4 with the Heat.
I forgot - he was already 2-4 in Miami alone - lone. That's even worse because now he will be 2-6, but that's what happens when little boys are allowed to build their own team.
 

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I forgot - he was already 2-4 in Miami alone - lone. That's even worse because now he will be 2-6, but that's what happens when little boys are allowed to build their own team.

No he wasn't. He was only in Miami 4 years and they went to 4 finals. This is his 2nd finals trip with the Cavs.

4+2 = 6. If the Cavs lose, he will be 2-4 in his 6 finals appearances.
 

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Are you serious? Ok, let's do this simple style for you:

He lost in the Finals with the Cavs=0-1.

He lost with the Heat his first season there=0-2.

He won 2 with the Heat=2-2.

He lost last season with the Heat=2-3. He made it to 4 straight Finals with the Heat.

If he loses with the Cavs again he'll be 2-4.
 
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