Darrell Green opines..

[Sportster 72]

Way to early to give up on Forbes. I said on draft day i would have taken Gonzalez but i was fine with Forbes. I just wanted a corner.

Looks like he's lost some confidence, but AJ is killing everyone right now. TBD

In the last Philly game Forbes had coverage on Brown, he was right there but Brown took a back shoulder pass and made a great catch. Same with Brown's other catch, Brown made a great play. The other play which involved Brown and Forbes ... again Brown made another great play. Hi put a triple move on Forbes. Forbes was good on the first two moves but got beat badly on the third move.

Call me silly but I am going to believe what Smoot and Green believe. Y'all can give me shit if I am wrong.

This defense gives up so many explosives. Something is missing in the coaching. Everyone is going to get beat at times. it isn't just Forbes. No one on defense can hold their heads up right now.

 

[duke1861]

In the last Philly game Forbes had coverage on Brown, he was right there but Brown took a back shoulder pass and made a great catch. Same with Brown's other catch, Brown made a great play. The other play which involved Brown and Forbes ... again Brown made another great play. Hi put a triple move on Forbes. Forbes was good on the first two moves but got beat badly on the third move.

Call me silly but I am going to believe what Smoot and Green believe. Y'all can give me shit if I am wrong.

This defense gives up so many explosives. Something is missing in the coaching. Everyone is going to get beat at times. it isn't just Forbes. No one on defense can hold their heads up right now.

They are 31st in the NFL I believe by 1 point. I think there is plenty of blame to spread around.

Indy has given up 229 points and we have given up 228 points. In other words, we are basically the worst team in the NFL.

My question is how we went from top 5 to basically tied for worst at halfway in the 2023 season?

 

[kbso83432]

In the last Philly game Forbes had coverage on Brown, he was right there but Brown took a back shoulder pass and made a great catch. Same with Brown's other catch, Brown made a great play. The other play which involved Brown and Forbes ... again Brown made another great play. Hi put a triple move on Forbes. Forbes was good on the first two moves but got beat badly on the third move.

Call me silly but I am going to believe what Smoot and Green believe. Y'all can give me shit if I am wrong.

This defense gives up so many explosives. Something is missing in the coaching. Everyone is going to get beat at times. it isn't just Forbes. No one on defense can hold their heads up right now.

I agree it just seems something is missing as far as coaching. This defense rarely looks good against a competent QB. Even last year they feasted on back up QBs.

 

[skinz2winz]

I could see the Skins taking some of that 91m and going after a veteran lockdown corner to buy time for Forbes to get stronger while he plays behind Fuller.

What if it is coaching though?

I don't think Fuller will be around next year.

 

[redskinsfan1963]

depending on what the new coach will want to spend that money on.maybe a veteran qb over howell?we won,t know until he gets in dc.

 

[Sportster 72]

They are 31st in the NFL I believe by 1 point. I think there is plenty of blame to spread around.

Indy has given up 229 points and we have given up 228 points. In other words, we are basically the worst team in the NFL.

My question is how we went from top 5 to basically tied for worst at halfway in the 2023 season?

The $10,000 question. Why the huge swings in defensive productivity?

 

[duke1861]

The $10,000 question. Why the huge swings in defensive productivity?

Let me call Miss cleo.

I have a scheduled appointment with her each week.

Stand by...lol

 

[kbso83432]

I don't think Fuller will be around next year.

Probably right, but he's been solid. BSJ has proven to be a solid back up but from the looks of things he's no starter. Might need him.

 

[Rowdy]

The $10,000 question. Why the huge swings in defensive productivity?

Seems this way every year with simple Jack usually they get it together eventually

 

[skinsdad62]

We'll see .... a lot of you guys call bust before a guy has a full season. Especially if he wasn't you choice.

Whether he does turn it around it is already done. So if the new staff doesn't like him they get someone else. BTW he is about the same weight Darryl Green and Fred Smoot were.

Long story shorter we have new ownership, new ideas and time to go forward.

I'll eat my crow if I am wrong.

I hope I will be eating mine . My issue is our FO should have known he wasn’t ready

 

[skinsdad62]

Has Forbes’ coverage been bad? I really don’t think so. So he has not played the position poorly but has physical limitations. That is coaching putting him in a position to fail…end of story.

You can’t hide people , NFL offenses will find you

 

[skinsdad62]

I could see the Skins taking some of that 91m and going after a veteran lockdown corner to buy time for Forbes to get stronger while he plays behind Fuller.

What if it is coaching though?

This is even worse you drafted Forbes to solve the issue and now you have to overpay in FA to aid in the solution, yikes

 

[kbso83432]

This is even worse you drafted Forbes to solve the issue and now you have to overpay in FA to aid in the solution, yikes

Not looking good for sure. Just not ready to give up on Forbes the player.

 

[skinsdad62]

Forbes being in position to make a play isn’t good enough . He has to make the play , sauce does

 

[skinsdad62]

Not looking good for sure. Just not ready to.give up on Forbes the player.

So far he is Davis quality and hence he was overdrafted.

So let’s recap he missed on CY , missed on Davis , hit on Dotson and the jury is still out on Forbes but trending downward

Right now Davis won’t get a 5th year option Cy didn’t , Dotson should and Forbes trending no

 

[redskinsfan1963]

The $10,000 question. Why the huge swings in defensive productivity?

probably due to bad coaching and stupid schemes

 

[PDay8810]

the culture requires house cleaning. Much more to come.

best thing for you guys since Gibbs part two

 

[kbso83432]

So far he is Davis quality and hence he was overdrafted.

So let’s recap he missed on CY , missed on Davis , hit on Dotson and the jury is still out on Forbes but trending downward

Right now Davis won’t get a 5th year option Cy didn’t , Dotson should and Forbes trending no

If your point is Ron and Mayhew arent good at their job you will get no argument from me. I don't want Ron anywhere near that 91m and those picks. I still feel Davis is having a very good year.

 

[gkekoa]

You can’t hide people , NFL offenses will find you

It is not hiding him. It is putting him in position to succeed.

 

[Stymietee]

depending on what the new coach will want to spend that money on.maybe a veteran qb over howell?we won,t know until he gets in dc.

I believe that the entire reset will be with another drafted QB. Howell is going to cost them a shit ton of money in either 2024 or 2025 and it might be prudent to have him work on his same contract next year, draft the new guy this offseason, and totally reset the rebuild timeline.