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So you would choose to put a team in the number one spot that has a rapist at QB rather than have an SEC team there? Personally how they rank the top 4 makes little difference but I would hate to reward FSU for allowing Winston to play just to send a message about scheduling. Call me crazy but I'll take how Mullen has handled his team over how Jimbo has.

They're just anti SEC. Pretty bad when they bitch about the timing of FCS opponents. Oregon played South Dakota in week 1, but it's an abomination that Mississippi State played Tennessee-Martin in week 10.
 

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The one in bold is set by the STATE OF FLORIDA! And by set that means legislature. Florida tried to not renew the contract this past time. Just so everyone knows.

I personally do not see having your instate rival as counting for much in your OOC schedule. Just for example UF has played FSU and Miami OOC and not left the state of FL for over 20 years. That is bullshit. Schedule at least one(Like LSU has done for the past few years).

Et Tu Manager? Crying about scheduling? That's easy to do when you play in a lousy conference.

FYI, you asked about this data earlier. Over the BCS era (1998-2013) in OOC games vs Majors.

11/01-11/30
ACC--------78 Majors----19 Top 10----42 Ranked
SEC---------63 Majors----10 Top 10----31 Ranked
PAC-12----18 Major-------3 Top 10-----8 Ranked
Big Ten-----3 Majors------1 Top 10------2 Ranked
Big 12-------1 Major-------0 Top 10------0 Ranked


08/01-09/30
PAC-12-----168 Majors----32 Top 10----72 Ranked----100 Win Rec
SEC---------121 Majors----20 Top 10----43 Ranked----78 Win Rec
Big 12------163 Majors----19 Top 10----48 Ranked----90 Win Rec
Big Ten----227 Majors----23 Top 10----65 Ranked----118 Win Rec
ACC--------172 Majors----29 Top 10----53 Ranked----96 Win Rec

ALL Majors OOC NON_BOWLS
ACC----------291 Majors----55 Top 10---108 Ranked---182 Win Rec
PAC-12------213 Majors----37 Top 10----91 Ranked----125 Win Rec
SEC----------203 Majors----32 Top 10----80 Ranked----134 Win Rec
Big Ten------238 Majors----25 Top 10----68 Ranked----123 Win Rec
Big 12--------174 Majors----21 Top 10----54 Ranked----99 Win Rec

ALL Majors OOC WITH_BOWLS
SEC-----------325 Majors----60 Top 10----159 Ranked----241 Win Rec
PAC-12-------283 Majors----56 Top 10----131 Ranked----189 Win Rec
Big 12---------283 Majors----52 Top 10----106 Ranked----195 Win Rec
Big Ten-------345 Majors----55 Top 10----140 Ranked----227 Win Rec
ACC-----------388 Majors----71 Top 10----158 Ranked----272 Win Rec
 

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It should be noted for the above data that the PAC-12 had several years in the BCS era of scheduling 9 conference games (essentially another game vs. a major).
 

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Never mind the fact that they have one of the toughest conference schedules in the country.

Yea it's so tough that Miss St opponents collective Winn loss record is 12 & 18 during conference play:L
 

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It should be noted for the above data that the PAC-12 had several years in the BCS era of scheduling 9 conference games (essentially another game vs. a major).


I wouldn't pay attention to that Nimrod, Half the shit he post is about as relevant as tits on a warthog. He loves to talk about opponents when loss record, but when you look at those opponents, they are mostly mid-majors and FCS programs
 

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I see no difference in playing Tennessee-Martin in week 11 and playing South Dakota in week one.

To be honest I think it's more of a risk to make the hard out of conference games early in the year. Early in the season is when the dumb mistakes happen and when good players who were suspended during the offseason have to sit out.
 

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It should be noted for the above data that the PAC-12 had several years in the BCS era of scheduling 9 conference games (essentially another game vs. a major).

You can't have it both ways. Do you want to look at conference games or OOC? That ninth game works both ways. It guarantees an "extra" loss but it also guarantees an "extra" win for the guys at the top.


FYI....Here are the list for ALL regular season games 1998-2013.
SEC--------385 Top 10 Opp(16.6%)----782 Ranked Opp(33.8%)----1803 Majors(77.9%)----1320 Win Rec(57.0%)
PAC-12----266 Top 10(13.6%)----525 Ranked Opp(26.9%)----1635 Majors(83.8%)----999 Win Rec(51.2%)
Big 12------257 Top 10 Opp(11.7%)-----607 Ranked Opp(27.6%)----1718 Majors(78.2%)----1188 Win Rec(54.0%)
Big Ten-----254 Top 10 Opp(12.1%)----590 Ranked Opp(28.0%)----1676 Majors(79.7%)----1012 Win Rec
ACC--------163 Top 10(7.9%)----553 Ranked Opp(26.7%)----1709 Majors(82.6%)----1154 Winn Rec

Here are the list for ALL regular season games 1998-2013 against Majors only.
SEC-------1803 Majors---383 Top 10(21.2%)----774 Ranked Opp(42.9%)----1182 Win Rec(65.6%)
PAC-12---1635 Majors---259 Top 10(15.8%)----497 Ranked Opp(30.4%)----877 Win Rec(53.6%)
Big 12-----1718 Majors---254 Top 10(14.8%)----591 Ranked Opp(34.4%)----1058 Win Rec(61.6%)
Big Ten----1676 Majors--251 Top 10(15.0%)----577 Ranked Opp(34.4%)----881 Win Rec(52.6%)
ACC--------1709 Majors---156 Top 10(9.1%)----539 Ranked Opp(31.5%)----1047 Win Rec(61.3%)
 

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To be honest I think it's more of a risk to make the hard out of conference games early in the year. Early in the season is when the dumb mistakes happen and when good players who were suspended during the offseason have to sit out.

Doesn't it work both ways? Aren't the other guys just a likely to make bone-head mistakes so you can win?

Just like later in the season there might be a greater chance of a key player being dinged-up but again it works the same for the other guy.
 

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You can't have it both ways. Do you want to look at conference games or OOC? That ninth game works both ways. It guarantees an "extra" loss but it also guarantees an "extra" win for the guys at the top.


FYI....Here are the list for ALL regular season games 1998-2013.
SEC--------385 Top 10 Opp(16.6%)----782 Ranked Opp(33.8%)----1803 Majors(77.9%)----1320 Win Rec(57.0%)
PAC-12----266 Top 10(13.6%)----525 Ranked Opp(26.9%)----1635 Majors(83.8%)----999 Win Rec(51.2%)
Big 12------257 Top 10 Opp(11.7%)-----607 Ranked Opp(27.6%)----1718 Majors(78.2%)----1188 Win Rec(54.0%)
Big Ten-----254 Top 10 Opp(12.1%)----590 Ranked Opp(28.0%)----1676 Majors(79.7%)----1012 Win Rec
ACC--------163 Top 10(7.9%)----553 Ranked Opp(26.7%)----1709 Majors(82.6%)----1154 Winn Rec

Here are the list for ALL regular season games 1998-2013 against Majors only.
SEC-------1803 Majors---383 Top 10(21.2%)----774 Ranked Opp(42.9%)----1182 Win Rec(65.6%)
PAC-12---1635 Majors---259 Top 10(15.8%)----497 Ranked Opp(30.4%)----877 Win Rec(53.6%)
Big 12-----1718 Majors---254 Top 10(14.8%)----591 Ranked Opp(34.4%)----1058 Win Rec(61.6%)
Big Ten----1676 Majors--251 Top 10(15.0%)----577 Ranked Opp(34.4%)----881 Win Rec(52.6%)
ACC--------1709 Majors---156 Top 10(9.1%)----539 Ranked Opp(31.5%)----1047 Win Rec(61.3%)

See what I mean MJ-Fan, this guy is clueless:yahoo:
 

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You can't have it both ways. Do you want to look at conference games or OOC? That ninth game works both ways. It guarantees an "extra" loss but it also guarantees an "extra" win for the guys at the top.


FYI....Here are the list for ALL regular season games 1998-2013.
SEC--------385 Top 10 Opp(16.6%)----782 Ranked Opp(33.8%)----1803 Majors(77.9%)----1320 Win Rec(57.0%)
PAC-12----266 Top 10(13.6%)----525 Ranked Opp(26.9%)----1635 Majors(83.8%)----999 Win Rec(51.2%)
Big 12------257 Top 10 Opp(11.7%)-----607 Ranked Opp(27.6%)----1718 Majors(78.2%)----1188 Win Rec(54.0%)
Big Ten-----254 Top 10 Opp(12.1%)----590 Ranked Opp(28.0%)----1676 Majors(79.7%)----1012 Win Rec
ACC--------163 Top 10(7.9%)----553 Ranked Opp(26.7%)----1709 Majors(82.6%)----1154 Winn Rec

Here are the list for ALL regular season games 1998-2013 against Majors only.
SEC-------1803 Majors---383 Top 10(21.2%)----774 Ranked Opp(42.9%)----1182 Win Rec(65.6%)
PAC-12---1635 Majors---259 Top 10(15.8%)----497 Ranked Opp(30.4%)----877 Win Rec(53.6%)
Big 12-----1718 Majors---254 Top 10(14.8%)----591 Ranked Opp(34.4%)----1058 Win Rec(61.6%)
Big Ten----1676 Majors--251 Top 10(15.0%)----577 Ranked Opp(34.4%)----881 Win Rec(52.6%)
ACC--------1709 Majors---156 Top 10(9.1%)----539 Ranked Opp(31.5%)----1047 Win Rec(61.3%)

It guarantees 6 additional losses for the conference. The reason for my comment is that you listed the gross number of OOC games vs. majors, as opposed to a percent of all OOC games vs. majors. It would be misleading to think that the other conferences are scheduling more majors than the PAC-12, when in reality the PAC-12 plays more games vs. majors than anyone.
 

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It guarantees 6 additional losses for the conference. The reason for my comment is that you listed the gross number of OOC games vs. majors, as opposed to a percent of all OOC games vs. majors. It would be misleading to think that the other conferences are scheduling more majors than the PAC-12, when in reality the PAC-12 plays more games vs. majors than anyone.

Don't worry MJ fan he's working his little fingers arduously on another stat that means absolutely nothing..
 

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Southern Miss
UAB
Southern Alabama
UT Martin

That is pathetic OOC to say the least. And to think this team could potentially play in the national championship game is a disgrace


Really,
Here are 3 resumes, you tell me which is "best"?

2003---Major (10-3-0), Major (8-5-0), Major (8-5-0), Major (8-6-0), Major (6-6-0), Major (6-7-0), Major (5-7-0), Major (5-7-0), Major (4-7-0), Major (2-10-0), Non-Major (9-5-0), Non-Major (4-8-0)
Summary 4 Majors with win Rec, 6 Majors with NON Win Rec, 1 Non-Majors with Win Rec, 1 Non-Majors with NON Win Rec

2004---Major (10-2-0), Major (10-3-0), Major (9-3-0), Major (7-5-0), Major (6-6-0), Major (6-6-0), Major (5-6-0), Major (4-7-0), Major (3-8-0), Major (1-10-0), Non-Major (5-6-0), Non-Major (4-7-0)
Summary 4 Majors with win Rec, 6 Majors with NON Win Rec, 2 Non-Majors with NON Win Rec

2014---Major (9-0-0), Major (8-1-0), Major (7-2-0), Major (7-3-0), Major (7-3-0), Major (4-5-0), Major (4-5-0), Major (3-7-0),
Non-Major (7-2-0), Non-Major (6-3-0), Non-Major (6-3-0), Non-Major (5-5-0, FCS)
Summary 5 Majors with win Rec, 3 Majors with NON Win Rec, 3 Non-Majors with Win Rec, 1 Non-Majors (FCS) with NON Win Rec

Quite ironic that a USC fan would bring up scheduling for Championship games participation!
 

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Don't worry MJ fan he's working his little fingers arduously on another stat that means absolutely nothing..

As opposed to you who just posts complete nonsense without bothering to look up anything!
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Really,
Here are 3 resumes, you tell me which is "best"?

2003---Major (10-3-0), Major (8-5-0), Major (8-5-0), Major (8-6-0), Major (6-6-0), Major (6-7-0), Major (5-7-0), Major (5-7-0), Major (4-7-0), Major (2-10-0), Non-Major (9-5-0), Non-Major (4-8-0)
Summary 4 Majors with win Rec, 6 Majors with NON Win Rec, 1 Non-Majors with Win Rec, 1 Non-Majors with NON Win Rec

2004---Major (10-2-0), Major (10-3-0), Major (9-3-0), Major (7-5-0), Major (6-6-0), Major (6-6-0), Major (5-6-0), Major (4-7-0), Major (3-8-0), Major (1-10-0), Non-Major (5-6-0), Non-Major (4-7-0)
Summary 4 Majors with win Rec, 6 Majors with NON Win Rec, 2 Non-Majors with NON Win Rec

2014---Major (9-0-0), Major (8-1-0), Major (7-2-0), Major (7-3-0), Major (7-3-0), Major (4-5-0), Major (4-5-0), Major (3-7-0),
Non-Major (7-2-0), Non-Major (6-3-0), Non-Major (6-3-0), Non-Major (5-5-0, FCS)
Summary 5 Majors with win Rec, 3 Majors with NON Win Rec, 3 Non-Majors with Win Rec, 1 Non-Majors (FCS) with NON Win Rec

Quite ironic that a USC fan would bring up scheduling for Championship games participation!

Who did the major/non-majors win/lose?
 

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LOL, I can't argue to, nor respond to stupidity. Oh my Lord. BTW MJ fan already answered you
 

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Doesn't it work both ways? Aren't the other guys just a likely to make bone-head mistakes so you can win?

Just like later in the season there might be a greater chance of a key player being dinged-up but again it works the same for the other guy.

Probably not since the offense is clicking better and the new personnel develops into their positions beyond the point of a weakness. The first few games of the season are sloppy for even the better teams. A good team is generally more vulnerable early in the season IMO. I think missing a key player hurts a lot no matter what time of the year it is.
 

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If you cant see the difference in playing those kinds of games in week 1, getting the off season rust off, getting young players some real game experience, shoring up a few position battles, making sure everyone is on the same page vs playing an FCS opponent in November when all of that should be settled in then you are blind.
 

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I wouldn't pay attention to that Nimrod, Half the shit he post is about as relevant as tits on a warthog. He loves to talk about opponents when loss record, but when you look at those opponents, they are mostly mid-majors and FCS programs

Dip-stick, you have yet to post ANYTHING that resembles a fact. All you want to do is spout crap that you made up. Don't you think it is time to put up or shut up? Come on post ANYTHING factual that refutes the data that I post. The problem is you can't so STFU.
 
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