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[gp956]

So what accomplishments are left for Matt Cain?

1. #1 Draft choice out of HS? check
2. Makes the Major Leagues? check
3. Wins a ML game? check
4. Gets a hit? check
5. Hits a HR? check
6. Wins a WS game? check
7. Wins a WS? check
8. All-star? Check
9 Wins an All-Star game? check
10. Throws a perfect game? check
11. Cy Young?
12. Hall of Fame?

 

[msgkings322]

So what accomplishments are left for Matt Cain?

1. #1 Draft choice out of HS? check
2. Makes the Major Leagues? check
3. Wins a ML game? check
4. Gets a hit? check
5. Hits a HR? check
6. Wins a WS game? check
7. Wins a WS? check
8. All-star? Check
9 Wins an All-Star game? check
10. Throws a perfect game? check
11. Cy Young?
12. Hall of Fame?

Pretty much those two, unless you want to include things like lead the league in wins/ERA/strikeouts

Or:

13. Win MVP? (Verlander did)
14. Win Manager of the Year?
15. Win a WS as manager?
16. Bang Tito's daughter?

 

[gp956]

Pretty much those two, unless you want to include things like lead the league in wins/ERA/strikeouts

Or:

13. Win MVP? (Verlander did)
14. Win Manager of the Year?
15. Win a WS as manager?
16. Bang Tito's daughter?

Droit du seigneur? I'm sure even Tito would be a proud father at that moment.

 

[SFGRTB]

Pretty much those two, unless you want to include things like lead the league in wins/ERA/strikeouts

Or:

13. Win MVP? (Verlander did)
14. Win Manager of the Year?
15. Win a WS as manager?
16. Bang Tito's daughter? check

I think thats why Tito hates him so much already.

I think getting 200 K's in a season would be up there and he's certainly on track.

 

[gp956]

.....need to add: 8b. Start an all-star game? check.

 

[tzill]

17. Win a game wherein his team gets shut out.

That's about it, though.

 

[Heathbar012]

17. Win a game wherein his team gets shut out.

That's about it, though.

He is... the most interesting pitcher in the world.

 

[SFAnthem]

So what accomplishments are left for Matt Cain?

1. #1 Draft choice out of HS? check
2. Makes the Major Leagues? check
3. Wins a ML game? check
4. Gets a hit? check
5. Hits a HR? check
6. Wins a WS game? check
7. Wins a WS? check
8. All-star? Check
9 Wins an All-Star game? check
10. Throws a perfect game? check
11. Cy Young?
12. Hall of Fame?

Fix Timmy?

 

[calsnowskier]

So what accomplishments are left for Matt Cain?

1. #1 Draft choice out of HS? check
2. Makes the Major Leagues? check
3. Wins a ML game? check
4. Gets a hit? check
5. Hits a HR? check
6. Wins a WS game? check
7. Wins a WS? check
8. All-star? Check
9 Wins an All-Star game? check
10. Throws a perfect game? check
11. Cy Young?
12. Hall of Fame?

Deal Nick Lowery a sombrero? Never been done (except by himself, of course), but one can hope...

 

[SFGRTB]

So what accomplishments are left for Matt Cain?

1. #1 Draft choice out of HS? check
2. Makes the Major Leagues? check
3. Wins a ML game? check
4. Gets a hit? check
5. Hits a HR? check
6. Wins a WS game? check
7. Wins a WS? check
8. All-star? Check
9 Wins an All-Star game? check
10. Throws a perfect game? check
11. Cy Young?
12. Hall of Fame?

Fix the economy

 

[Stokes1931]

So what accomplishments are left for Matt Cain?

1. #1 Draft choice out of HS? check
2. Makes the Major Leagues? check
3. Wins a ML game? check
4. Gets a hit? check
5. Hits a HR? check
6. Wins a WS game? check
7. Wins a WS? check
8. All-star? Check
9 Wins an All-Star game? check
10. Throws a perfect game? check
11. Cy Young?
12. Hall of Fame?

Bring world peace?

Cure cancer?

Lead the league in ERA?

He'll NEVER be more than a .500 pitcher though, FWIW.

 

[calsnowskier]

So what accomplishments are left for Matt Cain?

1. #1 Draft choice out of HS? check
2. Makes the Major Leagues? check
3. Wins a ML game? check
4. Gets a hit? check
5. Hits a HR? check
6. Wins a WS game? check
7. Wins a WS? check
8. All-star? Check
9 Wins an All-Star game? check
10. Throws a perfect game? check
11. Cy Young?
12. Hall of Fame?

REALISTICALLY...

20-win season
200K season
<1 WHIP
.200 BA season

 

[Giantsmojo]

Fix Chez?

FIFY

 

[Freeport 22]

So what accomplishments are left for Matt Cain?

1. #1 Draft choice out of HS? check
2. Makes the Major Leagues? check
3. Wins a ML game? check
4. Gets a hit? check
5. Hits a HR? check
6. Wins a WS game? check
7. Wins a WS? check
8. All-star? Check
9 Wins an All-Star game? check
10. Throws a perfect game? check
11. Cy Young?
12. Hall of Fame?

13- Multiple World Series winner

 

[SFAnthem]

13- Multiple World Series winner

^ I'm with this

(as a career Giant, of course)

 

[SF11704]

In today's world of pitching ..... I'd like to see him win 20 games .... not an easy feat any longer ... even for an elite pitcher ...

 

[Stokes1931]

^ I'm with this

(as a career Giant, of course)

Good addendum. I'd love to see this, as a Giant. If he ever went to the Spankees (God forbid!) and won multiple WS, this would not please me at all.

 

[tzill]

In today's world of pitching ..... I'd like to see him win 20 games .... not an easy feat any longer ... even for an elite pitcher ...

Interesting thing about the 20 win season. That standard gained popularity when there were four man rotations. Thus, each pitcher would get about 40 starts a year if he stayed healthy. A 20 win season was essentially winning half of your starts.

Now, pitchers get approximately 32 starts. So, the equivalent elite standard is 16 wins. Very few pitchers win that many games in a year.

16 is the new 20
12 is the new 15....that's the standard I look at for a good year -- to the extent that wins and losses have any value at all in evaluating a pitcher.

Edit: last year, 17 pitchers in all of baseball won 16 games or more. 57 won 12 or more. Basically, if you win 12, you're a #2 pitcher on an average team, 14 wins makes you an ace.

Giants wins last year:
Tron, Freak, Bum .....13 wins
Horse ..... 12 wins

Zeet's last full season (2010) was 9 wins.

 

[gp956]

Interesting thing about the 20 win season. That standard gained popularity when there were four man rotations. Thus, each pitcher would get about 40 starts a year if he stayed healthy. A 20 win season was essentially winning half of your starts.

Now, pitchers get approximately 32 starts. So, the equivalent elite standard is 16 wins. Very few pitchers win that many games in a year.

16 is the new 20
12 is the new 15....that's the standard I look at for a good year -- to the extent that wins and losses have any value at all in evaluating a pitcher.

Edit: last year, 17 pitchers in all of baseball won 16 games or more. 57 won 12 or more. Basically, if you win 12, you're a #2 pitcher on an average team, 14 wins makes you an ace.

Giants wins last year:
Tron, Freak, Bum .....13 wins
Horse ..... 12 wins

Zeet's last full season (2010) was 9 wins.

I wonder if pitch counts reduce win totals as well?

 

[SF11704]

I do remember Denny McClain when he was going for 30 wins in 1968. I was old enough
(22) to appreciate the feat. It seems to reflect what Tzill mentioned. McLain pitched in 41 games that year (the next year too). He actually got decisions in 37 of them (31-6). That's getting a decision in 90% of his starts. Pretty remarkable itself. From what I see from the late 60's and early 70's this was a little better than the norm. He actually won 75% of his starts. Most SP from that era were considered pretty good if they were around 50%.