POLL Biggest Cheater in all sports, all time?

[Manster7588]

I vote for David Ortiz

He's just really good at it

 

[Manster7588]

Can't be Donaghy when Stern was the one pulling the strings for actual game events.

Harding...i don't know if that's cheating technically. That's just a straight up crime.

It's hard to separate Brady and BB and I highly doubt tom brady said "no Bill, I don't want all the secrets gained from your illegal cheating cameras." But Brady also didn't violate the NFL's concussion protocol or take out headset communications...so I think BB would need to be #1 with Brady no better than 2.

We have no idea what the level of PED use even for the guys listed....and the statistical evidence for their effect on performance has been minimal so far.

Rose....betting on your team isn't ideal, and more changes things for gambler.

Armstrong is one. We know it. But is he a bigger cheater than the rest of his competition. Didn't his main rival during that time also get busted for doping later on?

When we talk about the biggest cheater it has to be compared to the rest of his field IMO. Because cheating is so different in different sports.

So I'm gonna say BB for his long list of shady shit.

Armstrong gets a pass from me because the whole cycling community was cheating, Lance Was Just better, and I probably would have steadfastly denied it to.

 

[The Q]

Armstrong gets a pass from me because the whole cycling community was cheating, Lance Was Just better, and I probably would have steadfastly denied it to.

That's kinda what I was saying.

When your entire competition is doing it....you aren't even necessarily the biggest cheater in your sport.

 

[The Q]

I need to use that smiley more often.

 

[Wamu]

????

They beat the Celtics in the Finals those years.

 

[Wamu]

So what's your opinion of Carl Lewis? He tested positive at the Indianapolis trials for 1988, thus shouldn't have even been at Seoul.

Good call, I forgot about him.

 

[Wamu]

Lewis: 'Who cares I failed drug test?

Lewis has now acknowledged that he failed three tests during the 1988 US Olympic trials, which under international rules at the time should have prevented him from competing in the Seoul games two months later.'

Thanks for the info. I forgot about Lewis.

 

[Manster7588]

I need to use that smiley more often.

 

[mcnabb7542]

 

[NWPATSFAN]

just like videotaping wasn't illegal eh?

I don't think you'll find a Patriot fan on the hoop that would disagree that video tapping from certain location is illegal. The majority of us feel BB felt he was (which he likely is) smarter than the NFL. He honestly felt he discovered another loophole. He pissed in Goodell's wheaties and Goodell threw the book at him because he was butt hurt.

So no it's not the same steroids are illegal federally. Video tapping from certain locations not so much.

 

[mcnabb7542]

Others:

Owners that have moved franchises to other cities!

 

[cerealboi]

No Chicago Black Sox? Ridiculous poll.

 

[chf]

I don't consider bribery for hosting sites "cheating."

Heh. I'm sure that makes sense in your own mind somehow.

 

[The Q]

Heh. I'm sure that makes sense in your own mind somehow.

No. You seemed to ignore the clarifier. It's still wrong. But it doesn't fit in with the spirit of what this poll is about.

You seemed to twist that to try and fit your own agenda.

 

[chf]

That's kinda what I was saying.

When your entire competition is doing it....you aren't even necessarily the biggest cheater in your sport.

Which is, of course, pretty much the entirety of Pat's fans defense of their team's shenanigans.

'If you ain't cheating you ain't trying!'

 

[chf]

No. You seemed to ignore the clarifier. It's still wrong. But it doesn't fit in with the spirit of what this poll is about.

You seemed to twist that to try and fit your own agenda.

My anti soccer and Olympic agenda?

OOooookaaaaaay.

You caught me.

 

[SteelersPride]

I don't think you'll find a Patriot fan on the hoop that would disagree that video tapping from certain location is illegal. The majority of us feel BB felt he was (which he likely is) smarter than the NFL. He honestly felt he discovered another loophole. He pissed in Goodell's wheaties and Goodell threw the book at him because he was butt hurt.

So no it's not the same steroids are illegal federally. Video tapping from certain locations not so much.

Weeds illegal federally. It's not in Colorado .

Your argument holds no weight, it wasn't illegal by nfl standards

 

[The Oldtimer]

I don't think you'll find a Patriot fan on the hoop that would disagree that video tapping from certain location is illegal. The majority of us feel BB felt he was (which he likely is) smarter than the NFL. He honestly felt he discovered another loophole. He pissed in Goodell's wheaties and Goodell threw the book at him because he was butt hurt.

So no it's not the same steroids are illegal federally. Video tapping from certain locations not so much.

But, is "video tapping from certain locations" legal?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Weeds illegal federally. It's not in Colorado .

Your argument holds no weight, it wasn't illegal by nfl standards

How does my argument not hold weight? Both are illegal. You forgot weed is not illegal in WA as well. However, it is still in the NFL. So are steroids. Own it Steeler fans it was a long time ago. You remember the stories your daddy told you about how the Steelers used to be great and *won a handful of SBs.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

But, is "video tapping from certain locations" legal?

Yes it was and still is. Are you new here?