A Fair and Honest look at the 2018 Michigan Schedule

[TrustMeIamRight]

So Harbaugh has knowingly been using a system his QBs couldnt handle for the past 3 years? Strange tactic

He runs a pro style offense, which means he recruits pocket QB’s, not dual threat QB’s. Running a read option would be like a fitting a round peg, into a circle hole. They don’t have the personnel for it.

As I said — in a perfect world — UM would have had QB depth when he got here. They literally had nothing. The QB who lost his job at Iowa was our starting QB. It isn’t difficult to understand — it isn’t like true freshman QBs starting is the norm. And a true freshman starting in a pro style offense is even more rare.

If you’d like — I can post a link that explains the differences between a pro style and spread/read option offense.

 

[7Samurai13]

So Harbaugh has knowingly been using a system his QBs couldnt handle for the past 3 years? Strange tactic

 

[Sgt Brutus]

He runs a pro style offense, which means he recruits pocket QB’s, not dual threat QB’s. Running a read option would be like a fitting a round peg, into a circle hole. They don’t have the personnel for it.

As I said — in a perfect world — UM would have had QB depth when he got here. They literally had nothing. The QB who lost his job at Iowa was our starting QB. It isn’t difficult to understand — it isn’t like true freshman QBs starting is the norm. And a true freshman starting in a pro style offense is even more rare.

If you’d like — I can post a link that explains the differences between a pro style and spread/read option offense.

3 years is a long time to find a QB, no?

 

[BigAppleBadger]

He runs a pro style offense, which means he recruits pocket QB’s, not dual threat QB’s. Running a read option would be like a fitting a round peg, into a circle hole. They don’t have the personnel for it.

As I said — in a perfect world — UM would have had QB depth when he got here. They literally had nothing. The QB who lost his job at Iowa was our starting QB. It isn’t difficult to understand — it isn’t like true freshman QBs starting is the norm. And a true freshman starting in a pro style offense is even more rare.

If you’d like — I can post a link that explains the differences between a pro style and spread/read option offense.

We had a true freshman QB last year and won the Cotton Bowl. True sophomore this year won the Orange Bowl.

 

[Across The Field]

Running a read option would be like a fitting a round peg, into a circle hole.

 

[ellupo]

He runs a pro style offense, which means he recruits pocket QB’s, not dual threat QB’s. Running a read option would be like a fitting a round peg, into a circle hole. They don’t have the personnel for it.

As I said — in a perfect world — UM would have had QB depth when he got here. They literally had nothing. The QB who lost his job at Iowa was our starting QB. It isn’t difficult to understand — it isn’t like true freshman QBs starting is the norm. And a true freshman starting in a pro style offense is even more rare.

If you’d like — I can post a link that explains the differences between a pro style and spread/read option offense.

Or he could evaluate talent and develop his own talent better. He wont always fall into an Andrew Luck to make himself look good.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Or he could evaluate talent and develop his own talent better. He wont always fall into an Andrew Luck to make himself look good.

Or a Josh Johnson, or a Alex Smith, or a Colin Kaepernick. Mentioning Luck is foolish, when the majority of his stops he has had game managers at best at QB

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

3 years is a long time to find a QB, no?

He signed to coach UM a month before the signing deadline — he had no recruiting class his first year.
His 2nd year, he recruited Brandon Peters, who redshirted, and it is obvious why, because in year 2 in the program, he has still struggled to learn the offense. They cut the playbook in half to get him on the field.
Last year, we signed Dylan McCaffrey — 6’5” 195 lbs, which is his listed weight. He probably weighed closer to 180. He redshirted.

So in 3 years — only one QB has dressed for UM. As I said, in a perfect world, you’d have depth in the QB room. UM had nothing. It isn’t like I made the statement about UM recently — I literally posted when Harbaugh signed on — we wouldn’t find out how good UM can be until he finds a QB to run his offense. It hasn’t changed.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

My bad — that was supposed to be square peg into a round hole

 

[ellupo]

Or a Josh Johnson, or a Alex Smith, or a Colin Kaepernick. Mentioning Luck is foolish, when the majority of his stops he has had game managers at best at QB

So harbs had Smith who was a first pick, Kaepernick who was 13th and the foolish one Andrew Luck. Yes poor Harbs has had nothing to work with his whole career.

 

[ellupo]

He signed to coach UM a month before the signing deadline — he had no recruiting class his first year.
His 2nd year, he recruited Brandon Peters, who redshirted, and it is obvious why, because in year 2 in the program, he has still struggled to learn the offense. They cut the playbook in half to get him on the field.
Last year, we signed Dylan McCaffrey — 6’5” 195 lbs, which is his listed weight. He probably weighed closer to 180. He redshirted.

So in 3 years — only one QB has dressed for UM. As I said, in a perfect world, you’d have depth in the QB room. UM had nothing. It isn’t like I made the statement about UM recently — I literally posted when Harbaugh signed on — we wouldn’t find out how good UM can be until he finds a QB to run his offense. It hasn’t changed.

So harbs can only do well in a "perfect world". I bet many others coaches would love to have that excuse at the ready.

 

[7Samurai13]

He signed to coach UM a month before the signing deadline — he had no recruiting class his first year.
His 2nd year, he recruited Brandon Peters, who redshirted, and it is obvious why, because in year 2 in the program, he has still struggled to learn the offense. They cut the playbook in half to get him on the field.
Last year, we signed Dylan McCaffrey — 6’5” 195 lbs, which is his listed weight. He probably weighed closer to 180. He redshirted.

So in 3 years — only one QB has dressed for UM. As I said, in a perfect world, you’d have depth in the QB room. UM had nothing. It isn’t like I made the statement about UM recently — I literally posted when Harbaugh signed on — we wouldn’t find out how good UM can be until he finds a QB to run his offense. It hasn’t changed.

So we should ignore all the quarterbacks he steals from other teams that doesn’t fit his system?

 

[socaljim242]

Doesnt a smart coach run a system that works with the players he has? Until he get's his kinda players. It's football. He didn't inherit basketball players.

 

[ellupo]

Doesnt a smart coach run a system that works with the players he has? Until he get's his kinda players. It's football. He didn't inherit basketball players.

No the great harbs has his perfect system and the players better fit that system or he justs has an excuse for "next year".

 

[mall3013]

If Shea Patterson is able to get eligibility, I think they win 10-11 games next season. He's a major difference maker and playmaker.

Not only this, but it sounds like former Buckeye OL coach Ed Warriner will be the scUM OL coach. Fuckers can't beat us so they pluck from our coaching staff.

 

[7Samurai13]

No the great harbs has his perfect system and the players better fit that system or he justs has an excuse for "next year".

And if Patterson is eligible and doesn’t play great it will be another, “Harbaugh didn’t recruit him, so this doesn’t count,” like O’Korn.

 

[7Samurai13]

Not only this, but it sounds like former Buckeye OL coach Ed Warriner will be the scUM OL coach. Fuckers can't beat us so they pluck from our coaching staff.

Welcome to the club.
Michigan hires Enos to join offensive staff

 

[ellupo]

And if Patterson is eligible and doesn’t play great it will be another, “Harbaugh didn’t recruit him, so this doesn’t count,” like O’Korn.

Harbs is not a miracle worker. He cannot get that kid to learn that great system in such a short time. Its for sure the kids fault.

 

[Wamu]

I'm not buying into any of this nonsense that Jimmy Jam needs his players to succeed. That's nothing more than an excuse from some meeeechegan fans when expectations aren't met. Plus he took Hoke's recruits & doubled the win total his 1st year. There are examples of HC's taking over programs & completely turning things around in 3 years (went w/ 3 because that's how long JH has been in ann arbor). HC's that won a Natty in their 3rd year or fewer: Saban (3rd year @ Bama), Tressel (2nd year @ Ohio State), Meyer (3rd year @ Ohio State & 2nd year @ Florida).

So JH is entering his 4th year @ meeeechegan so here are 2 examples of HC's that won it all in their 4th year: Saban (LSU) & Jimbo Fisher ( FSU).

Some of those fans simply won't or can't admit that their coach isn't the miracle worker they were hoping for.

 

[Across The Field]

I'll admit the guy hasn't had much to work with in the QB room. The guys he inherited were the only ones with experience, and they sucked. Peters was his dude, but was more raw than he had envisioned. Happens all the time in CFB. That said, if he has Patterson this year and they still go 8-4 or even 9-3, his seat is going to get warm, as it should be.