2017 Reds Talk

[Hit-n-Run]

The Padres drafted and traded to acquire the first three players in the rule 5 draft.

Maybe it all works out and AJ Preller is a genius, but it sounds crazy at the moment.

 

[JohnU]

If cheap is better, then I guess Turner is better than Ramon Cabrera, who at least played some MLB last year.
I am a believer in lots of catching but there are some guys who are floating around.

 

[JohnU]

Didn't really expect Fowler to jump to the Cards, effectively a trade for Jason Heyward.

 

[Hit-n-Run]

Turner is a defense first type catcher and Cabrera a defense last type catcher. Turner doesn't supply much offense and Cabrera doesn't provide enough offense to offset his defensive liabilty. They both cost league minimum and sadly neither are worth a roster spot.

 

[JohnU]

I found a pitcher we can get.

(Consider the Reds had landed Seaver at the time and were coming off 2 BRM world titles and a near miss in 77.)

Dave Revering and $1.75 million in the deal. Kuhn, who hated Finley, prevented the Reds from being the best team for another half-dozen years.

PS: This photo is probably fake but it's a damned good job. Vida ever showed up since the deal was done in December 1977 and voided almost immediately. There was no "ballpark" for him to model that uniform, but -- again -- it's pretty crafty work by an artist.

PSS: I looked up Blue's numbers for 1977 and they were horrible. Went to Giants and recovered.

Vida Blue Stats | Baseball-Reference.com

 

[eburg5000]

Just wondering, Reds drafting Torrens then trading him to the Padres. could that be payback for Straily?

Kuhn voided that trade saying it was not "good for Baseball", Not many moves made any more "for the good of baseball"

 

[JohnU]

Kuhn interpreted his job as the same thing Landis originally said when using a God-like iron fist.
Selig conversely did what was good for the game, meaning that it profited the owners, who were his boss.
I think I'd have preferred a little of both but a lot less Kuhn than Selig.

Compensation for Strailly? Seems unlikely but possible over the course of time.

Kuhn would not have allowed the Chapman trade, I think, knowing what we all knew would happen.

 

[JohnU]

So Ivan deJesus the 2nd has signed a Triple-A contract with the Brewers. which is clearly better than the one the Reds would have given him. It also suggests that there wasn't any reason the guy was going to make the Reds this year. For all that's worth, that seems to be a relief though I.DJ. Jr. wasn't too too terrible.

 

[eburg5000]

DeJesus got a lot of playing time for the Reds. He was one of Prices favorites. Sort of like some of the guys Dusty played almost every day that wasn't worth a crap. But I agree DeJesus wasn't all that bad.....And I bet if he makes the Brewers 25 man roster he will be a Reds killer.

 

[JohnU]

Dejesus is a lot like Ronny Cedeno, who hit below Mendoza for a career but hit .784 against the Reds with 39 doubles, none of which traveled more than 180 feet.

 

[Hit-n-Run]

The Reds acquired a lot of middle infielders through trade. At the moment there doesn't appear to be much of a demand for them around the league.

A guy like DeJesus has more value signed as a minor leaguer. It gives a team the option to keep him in AAA or promote him if needed. The team has options, but the player doesn't in that scenario.

 

[JohnU]

Have seen a lot of utility guys getting traded over the years at the deadline.

 

[Hit-n-Run]

The Reds would like to trade Cozart or Phillips, but the interest may not be there.

Fortunately what teams think they need in the offseason differs from what they realize they need at the deadline.

 

[Hit-n-Run]

If no news is good news.... the Reds are having a good offseason.

 

[JohnU]

I did see the competitive balance draft for June favors the Reds a little. If this is how the Royals and Parrots and Rays built winning teams, then go for it.

 

[JohnU]

Remembering when Aroldis came to the U.S. that everyone was certain the Yankees would sign him because they had the dough. When the Reds got him, the world was shocked. Shocked, I tell you! Turns out, the Yankees got him anyway, just waited until he became the best lefty in baseball to sign him for inflation-adjusted dollars.

 

[Hit-n-Run]

Brian Cashman and other GMs were pretty vocal condemning the amount the Reds payed to acquire Chapman.

They're the same GM's that will pay ridiculously high posting fees to acquire players like Tanaka.

 

[JohnU]

Keyvius Sampson signs with the D-Backs. I thought it was odd that the Reds stuck with this guy that long.
Another in a long list of guys with "big league stuff" who couldn't get anybody out with it.

 

[Hit-n-Run]

The most devastating slider I saw a Reds pitch throw last season was delivered by Sampson to Andrew McCutchen. The problem is I never saw him throw another one that was any where near as good.

 

[Hit-n-Run]

A couple more waiver wire claims and one going the other way that just got here.

Infielder Richie Shaffer and pitcher Tyrell Jenkins claimed and catcher Juan Graterol DFA and claimed by the Dbacks.