Coaches who are on the Hot Seat this year...or could be

NolePride · Aug 1, 2017

I'm only looking at the Power 5 teams. The other schools are difficult to judge
because some of them will lose good coaches to a Power 5 team that dumps their
man.

btw...This isn't from some story, just my thoughts. (Expectations differ from school to school)

SEC...

Malzahn at Auburn. I think he needs 10 wins. Bama is flying high and with
the exception of his first year, Auburn is buried with 5 or 6 losses per season.
I don't believe they will put up with that for another season.

Sumlin at Texas A&M. He's like Malzahn. Great debut, mediocre ever since.
Those alum and fans have invested a great deal of money in that program.
He's another one in need of a double-digit win season.

Orgeron at LSU. If they would have gotten Hermann, he wouldn't even have
the job. They took the word "Interim" off his title, but I believe they still see
him as an interim coach. He's going to have to produce big-time to keep them
from looking again.

Mason at Vandy will always be iffy. He was lucky last year to get to a bowl.
His first couple of years was a drastic reduction from Franklin.

Bielema at Arky. I don't know if he'll be on the hot seat. Those folks seem ok
as long as they have a winning record.

Butch Jones at Tennessee. Last Year was suppose to be THE YEAR. It was. Another
year with 4 losses. I don't believe he can have a setback.

Big 10...

Ash at Rutgers. He took over a poor program and made it worst. I would think
he needs to improve, but then again, nobody ever said Rutgers has high expectations.

Smith at Illinois. He doesn't belong in College. Maybe those folks will keep dreaming

Riley at Nebraska. If they are okay with losing 4 a year, they could have kept Bo.
I just believe those folks want more and Riley wasn't exactly the choice of everybody
at NU when he got the job.

Pac12...

Graham at Arizona State. 2 straight losing seasons. He won't see 2018 if he
has a 3rd straight.

RichRod at Arizona. He built them up in his first 3 years and has gone downhill
the last two. LY was almost rock bottom. Even those folks want more.

Big12...

Bleat at Kansas. 2-22 can't put you anywhere but on the hot seat, but I think
he's done a good job. At least they were competitive in most games. His
record puts him at risk, but I think I'd wait and see with this guy, thru the 2018 season.

Kingsbury at Texas Tech. You have to at least pretend to care about the defense.
They are just ugly at times. I understand the favorite son and all, but that can only
go so far.

ACC...

Doeren at NC State. They almost pulled the trigger last year. He may need 9
to keep his job.

Ind.

Kelly at Notre Dame. I don't know...maybe their expectations have changed.
Maybe they have finally realized that this ain't the 30's and 40's anymore.
Too be honest...I'm surprised he hasn't bolted. He bottoms up again, he won't
jave to worry about bolting.

Just my thoughts. Let me know where I'm wrong or others I have missed.

starbigd · Aug 1, 2017

You forgot Jim Mora at UCLA

4down20 · Aug 1, 2017

I don't see how Tennessee keeps Butch Jones with anything less than a SEC East championship. I recently read a quote where he said something along the lines that last years 9-4 season wasn't disappointing.

Often times you see things about culture and how a coach needs to change it or whatever. And it seems to me, saying such things aren't disappointing is building the wrong kind of culture. That should be disappointing as fuck, but not for Butch Jones.

And don't get me started on his "Life Champions" and "5 star hearts". Straight up participation trophy mindset in college football.

But I hope they extend him for obvious reasons.

ericd7633 · Aug 1, 2017

NolePride said:
I'm only looking at the Power 5 teams. The other schools are difficult to judge
because some of them will lose good coaches to a Power 5 team that dumps their
man.

btw...This isn't from some story, just my thoughts. (Expectations differ from school to school)

SEC...

Malzahn at Auburn. I think he needs 10 wins. Bama is flying high and with
the exception of his first year, Auburn is buried with 5 or 6 losses per season.
I don't believe they will put up with that for another season.

Sumlin at Texas A&M. He's like Malzahn. Great debut, mediocre ever since.
Those alum and fans have invested a great deal of money in that program.
He's another one in need of a double-digit win season.

Orgeron at LSU. If they would have gotten Hermann, he wouldn't even have
the job. They took the word "Interim" off his title, but I believe they still see
him as an interim coach. He's going to have to produce big-time to keep them
from looking again.

Mason at Vandy will always be iffy. He was lucky last year to get to a bowl.
His first couple of years was a drastic reduction from Franklin.

Bielema at Arky. I don't know if he'll be on the hot seat. Those folks seem ok
as long as they have a winning record.

Butch Jones at Tennessee. Last Year was suppose to be THE YEAR. It was. Another
year with 4 losses. I don't believe he can have a setback.

Big 10...

Ash at Rutgers. He took over a poor program and made it worst. I would think
he needs to improve, but then again, nobody ever said Rutgers has high expectations.

Smith at Illinois. He doesn't belong in College. Maybe those folks will keep dreaming

Riley at Nebraska. If they are okay with losing 4 a year, they could have kept Bo.
I just believe those folks want more and Riley wasn't exactly the choice of everybody
at NU when he got the job.

Pac12...

Graham at Arizona State. 2 straight losing seasons. He won't see 2018 if he
has a 3rd straight.

RichRod at Arizona. He built them up in his first 3 years and has gone downhill
the last two. LY was almost rock bottom. Even those folks want more.

Big12...

Bleat at Kansas. 2-22 can't put you anywhere but on the hot seat, but I think
he's done a good job. At least they were competitive in most games. His
record puts him at risk, but I think I'd wait and see with this guy, thru the 2018 season.

Kingsbury at Texas Tech. You have to at least pretend to care about the defense.
They are just ugly at times. I understand the favorite son and all, but that can only
go so far.

ACC...

Doeren at NC State. They almost pulled the trigger last year. He may need 9
to keep his job.

Ind.

Kelly at Notre Dame. I don't know...maybe their expectations have changed.
Maybe they have finally realized that this ain't the 30's and 40's anymore.
Too be honest...I'm surprised he hasn't bolted. He bottoms up again, he won't
jave to worry about bolting.

Just my thoughts. Let me know where I'm wrong or others I have missed.

Kelly was fine up until last years implosion. He was averaging over 9 wins a season, which is about where ND is as a program IMO. Some years we'll be in contention(2012, 2015), some years we'll be slightly above average(2010, 2011). He can't have another year like last year or he's gonna be gone. I think he's a good coach, and player developer(at least on offense) but he acts like a douche too much of the time.

WizardHawk · Aug 1, 2017

starbigd stole my thunder. Mora jr might not be fully on a hot seat, but another underwhelming season could see that seat heat up before the end of the year. He has way too much talent to keep having such disappointing results.

AlaskaGuy · Aug 1, 2017

NolePride said:
I'm only looking at the Power 5 teams. The other schools are difficult to judge
because some of them will lose good coaches to a Power 5 team that dumps their
man.

btw...This isn't from some story, just my thoughts. (Expectations differ from school to school)

SEC...

Malzahn at Auburn. I think he needs 10 wins. Bama is flying high and with
the exception of his first year, Auburn is buried with 5 or 6 losses per season.
I don't believe they will put up with that for another season.

Sumlin at Texas A&M. He's like Malzahn. Great debut, mediocre ever since.
Those alum and fans have invested a great deal of money in that program.
He's another one in need of a double-digit win season.

Orgeron at LSU. If they would have gotten Hermann, he wouldn't even have
the job. They took the word "Interim" off his title, but I believe they still see
him as an interim coach. He's going to have to produce big-time to keep them
from looking again.

Mason at Vandy will always be iffy. He was lucky last year to get to a bowl.
His first couple of years was a drastic reduction from Franklin.

Bielema at Arky. I don't know if he'll be on the hot seat. Those folks seem ok
as long as they have a winning record.

Butch Jones at Tennessee. Last Year was suppose to be THE YEAR. It was. Another
year with 4 losses. I don't believe he can have a setback.

Big 10...

Ash at Rutgers. He took over a poor program and made it worst. I would think
he needs to improve, but then again, nobody ever said Rutgers has high expectations.

Smith at Illinois. He doesn't belong in College. Maybe those folks will keep dreaming

Riley at Nebraska. If they are okay with losing 4 a year, they could have kept Bo.
I just believe those folks want more and Riley wasn't exactly the choice of everybody
at NU when he got the job.

Pac12...

Graham at Arizona State. 2 straight losing seasons. He won't see 2018 if he
has a 3rd straight.

RichRod at Arizona. He built them up in his first 3 years and has gone downhill
the last two. LY was almost rock bottom. Even those folks want more.

Big12...

Bleat at Kansas. 2-22 can't put you anywhere but on the hot seat, but I think
he's done a good job. At least they were competitive in most games. His
record puts him at risk, but I think I'd wait and see with this guy, thru the 2018 season.

Kingsbury at Texas Tech. You have to at least pretend to care about the defense.
They are just ugly at times. I understand the favorite son and all, but that can only
go so far.

ACC...

Doeren at NC State. They almost pulled the trigger last year. He may need 9
to keep his job.

Ind.

Kelly at Notre Dame. I don't know...maybe their expectations have changed.
Maybe they have finally realized that this ain't the 30's and 40's anymore.
Too be honest...I'm surprised he hasn't bolted. He bottoms up again, he won't
jave to worry about bolting.

Just my thoughts. Let me know where I'm wrong or others I have missed.

Add Mora (UCLA) to that list.

lilchi721 · Aug 2, 2017

NolePride said:
He's another one in need of a double-digit win season.

To me if that is true then A&M should've fired him last year.

Across The Field · Aug 2, 2017

Not sure why Mora is being added to the list. He had a really bad year last year, yes, but from 2012-2015 he won 37 games. UCLA won fewer than that in the previous 6 years combined. If Rosen is healthy this year, even with their crazy schedule, I could see them winning at least 8 games.

NolePride · Aug 2, 2017

I think I know why some are adding Mora.

I almost included him. I heard or read somewhere a few months ago that he has
some other issues at UCLA. Can't remember what it was. Maybe player issues/treatment...
maybe administration problems.

I had always heard he was somewhat like his Father. A jerk. He just doesn't
come across that way.

But, because I couldn't remember what it was I heard, I didn't include him.

Lions=TeHsUcKs · Aug 2, 2017

Mora is a polarizing coach, on one hand his results have been mostly shit and his offenses have been terrible. On the other hand, he did have a couple of decent seasons and recruited well while also developing defensive prospects like a madman. He also has a good record against USC, but has been Stanford's bitch. Last season was obviously awful as well.

WizardHawk · Aug 2, 2017

Across The Field said:
Not sure why Mora is being added to the list. He had a really bad year last year, yes, but from 2012-2015 he won 37 games. UCLA won fewer than that in the previous 6 years combined. If Rosen is healthy this year, even with their crazy schedule, I could see them winning at least 8 games.

That is exactly why his seat could get warm. Another down year with Rosen back would be disastrous.

They have road games at Stanford, Utah, Washington and USC. So all of their most challenging games are on the road anyway which sets them up nicely at home. There really is no excuse for anything less than 7 wins and even 7 would cause grumbling.

Faith No Mora: UCLA Must Replace Jim Mora With A Coach Who Can Get The Team To The Next Level
UCLA Football And The End of the Jim Mora Revolution

lots of stories like these out there of fans questioning Mora's tenure and overall program health/direction.

Since Mora came on board they have been in the top 20 of recruiting classes every year including a top 10 and a couple of top 15. Injuries happen, but how many have that much star power and accept a 4-8 season?

Anything even remotely that bad and his seat is heating up substantially.

963BUSC · Aug 2, 2017

ericd7633 said:
Kelly was fine up until last years implosion. He was averaging over 9 wins a season, which is about where ND is as a program IMO. Some years we'll be in contention(2012, 2015), some years we'll be slightly above average(2010, 2011). He can't have another year like last year or he's gonna be gone. I think he's a good coach, and player developer(at least on offense) but he acts like a douche too much of the time.

I agree on Kelly, you aren't going to fire a coach that's winning for being a douche, but it sure helps push the scales when he's losing. I think Kelly will be given a shorter grace period for losing.

NolePride said:
...
Ind.

Kelly at Notre Dame. I don't know...maybe their expectations have changed.
Maybe they have finally realized that this ain't the 30's and 40's anymore.
Too be honest...I'm surprised he hasn't bolted. He bottoms up again, he won't
have to worry about bolting.

....

I don't see where he would Bolt to? There aren't many programs above ND for national exposure. And I don't see those schools trying to take him.

TexasExes98 · Aug 2, 2017

Definitely Sumlin. You can't be one of the highest paid coaches in the country and be irrelevant in the SEC. Graham at ASU is gone if he has a 3rd losing season in a row. Sand Aggies will keep Kingsbury regardless if he has a losing season and ISU drops another 60 + on them.

tducey · Aug 2, 2017

Possibly Harbaugh at Michigan if they don't make the playoffs this year.

mcnabb7542 · Aug 2, 2017

Oregeon is in his first full year, I don't see the chair hot on him yet.....

Clayton · Aug 2, 2017

General assumption with Mizzou is that the offense will be good and the defense will be embarrassingly bad so I think that immediately puts Josh Heupel and probably Odom on the hook if Mizzou goes something like 2-10 in an empty football stadium. Mizzou's issues are pretty unique, though, in that they just need a team that can actually get people to show up for which in a notably red state is uphill sledding.

Niner Outlaw · Aug 2, 2017

NolePride said:
Bielema at Arky. I don't know if he'll be on the hot seat. Those folks seem ok
as long as they have a winning record.

Strangely, Bielema is not on the hot seat this year. I think he should be b/c he's consistently blown 4th quarter leads against good teams, but he inherited a team that was in shambles and after going 3-9 in his first season, he's gone 7-6, 8-5 and 7-6. Over those last 3 seasons, despite having much lower ranked recruiting classes, Bielema's record is comparable to Sumlin's and Malzahn's, but their seats are much hotter due to their huge early success. Having said that, unless the team shows improvement against its SEC peers, I think Bielema's seat will start to get hot in 2018.

OVerall, I agree with you. Barring a big turn around, guys like Sumlin and Malzahn might as well have their stuff packed. Kingsbury and Mora have to be feeling the heat this year too

nddulac · Aug 2, 2017

963BUSC said:
I don't see where he would Bolt to? There aren't many programs above ND for national exposure. And I don't see those schools trying to take him.

I think he should learn to embrace his golf game and enjoy his retirement. I know I will (enjoy his retirement - not golf - I hate golf) when it eventually comes to pass.

batchaps4me · Aug 2, 2017

NolePride said:
Malzahn at Auburn. I think he needs 10 wins. Bama is flying high and with
the exception of his first year, Auburn is buried with 5 or 6 losses per season.
I don't believe they will put up with that for another season.

I think he saves his job with 9 wins IF that comes with Deep South's Oldest Rivalry or Iron Bowl wins. But that would leave his seat really hot for the 18 season. We really neat to win the West.

NolePride said:
Mason at Vandy will always be iffy. He was lucky last year to get to a bowl.
His first couple of years was a drastic reduction from Franklin.

I look for Vandy to make a bowl again and have a winning season.

NolePride said:
Butch Jones at Tennessee. Last Year was suppose to be THE YEAR. It was. Another
year with 4 losses. I don't believe he can have a setback.

I agree. He beat Florida and Georgia and still lost the East because of a loss to Vandy. It takes skill to pull that off.

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