THE PAC 12 THREAD v.5

[TheDayMan]

Why werern't the coaches checking on him? should never have let him keep playing. he could have done more. clearly the coaches weren't doing their jobs and protecting him. OUTRAGE!!

 

[Olyduck]

I keep hearing it was "military style training". Now you say allowed to rest and get water. lol. As a former Marine those two things don't go together.
Football players should be in pretty good shape. Maybe these were O linemen and really werent used to serious training. As a strength supervisor he should have known their limits. if it was just one then maybe I can see it just being a mistake. If it's three then the instructor fucked up. Not saying the players werent soft . Just saying the guy in charge should know the signs of a person in trouble..

Military style workouts doesn't mean they were military work outs. adapting certain aspects of military workouts doesn't mean they are actual military workouts. multiple players have stated they were allowed to take breaks at any time.

 

[socaljim242]

Military style workouts doesn't mean they were military work outs. adapting certain aspects of military workouts doesn't mean they are actual military workouts. multiple players have stated they were allowed to take breaks at any time.

Then they should call them civilian bootcamp workouts. The fact that you can get up and say I need a break means its not military at all. My friend does a beach bootcamp on weekends. Its hard as hell but nothing compared to military bootcamp or survival school. That coach fucked up. Thats why hes on time out.

 

[WizardHawk]

and allowed to rest and take breaks and get water as needed.

Did they create individual programs per each students evaluated physical condition? No. It was a blanket workout that did not take into account NCAA guidelines for preventing this sort of thing. They should have brought up their conditioning more slowly and ensured none of the more out of shape students were working too hard for their condition. It is a requirement of that job and they completely failed to do so and directly lead to injured students, several of which spent many days in a hospital because of it.

token move for all the media warriors calling for action

Teams do not suspend coaches to appease the media. They also do not make statements that changes have been made to programs that were not at least in some way culpable in causing harm to the situation.

You are going to steadfast hold to your guns that this was 10000000% on the students and them alone at all costs aren't you? Just too hard to admit the staff failed these kids and have been punished for it.

 

[trojanfan12]

You are going to steadfast hold to your guns that this was 10000000% on the students and them alone at all costs aren't you? Just too hard to admit the staff failed these kids and have been punished for it.

I think both are at fault. Not sure who I would blame more.

There should have been mandatory breaks. I remember "old school football two a days" and even back then, when guys would run off the field to puke and were expected to get right back to running drills (if you puked on the field, you had to run more), we had mandatory water breaks.

On the other hand, players have to be responsible for themselves and each other to a point. These guys have to know to take breaks and/or seek help if they aren't feeling right. There are some things a coach can't be expected to see.

 

[WizardHawk]

I think both are at fault. Not sure who I would blame more.

There should have been mandatory breaks. I remember "old school football two a days" and even back then, when guys would run off the field to puke and were expected to get right back to running drills (if you puked on the field, you had to run more), we had mandatory water breaks.

On the other hand, players have to be responsible for themselves and each other to a point. These guys have to know to take breaks and/or seek help if they aren't feeling right. There are some things a coach can't be expected to see.

It's more that the NCAA guide says to evaluate each student and give them a program catered to their needs which is supposed to help prevent this and yet this was an open free for all type of workout without any regard for what shape each kid was in at that time. If it is actually in the NCAA guidelines then this staff should be aware of it and understand what it is designed to do. We don't expect kids to know about those conditions for pushing yourself too far unless that staff actually stresses it. They are teachers. It's a school.

 

[Olyduck]

Then they should call them civilian bootcamp workouts. The fact that you can get up and say I need a break means its not military at all. My friend does a beach bootcamp on weekends. Its hard as hell but nothing compared to military bootcamp or survival school. That coach fucked up. Thats why hes on time out.

you mean the media may have dubbed something to make it seem worse than it was?

 

[TheDayMan]

Oregon football should be shut down for a few years until they can prove they know how to safely work with young athletes.

 

[TheDayMan]

Or at least get a 3 year bowl ban and lose some scholarships. Give the current players the option to transfer without losing a year, since they clearly aren't safe with such an irresponsible staff.

 

[Olyduck]

back in reality
some schedules have been released
Colorado

Friday
Sep. 1 Colorado State Rams
Sports Authority Field at Mile High, Denver, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 9 Texas State Bobcats
Folsom Field, Boulder, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 16

Northern Colorado Bears
Folsom Field, Boulder, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 23 Washington Huskies
Folsom Field, Boulder, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 30 at UCLA Bruins
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 7 Arizona Wildcats
Folsom Field, Boulder, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 14 at Oregon State Beavers
Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 21 at Washington State Cougars
Martin Stadium, Pullman, WA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 28 California Golden Bears
Folsom Field, Boulder, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 4 at Arizona State Sun Devils
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 11 USC Trojans
Folsom Field, Boulder, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 18 OFF
Saturday
Nov. 25 at Utah Utes
Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City, UT Time TBA
TV TBA

 

[Olyduck]

Arizona

Saturday
Sep. 2

NAU Lumberjacks
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 9 Houston Cougars
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 16 at UTEP Miners
Sun Bowl Stadium, El Paso, TX Time TBA
TV TBA
Friday
Sep. 22 Utah Utes
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 30 OFF
Saturday
Oct. 7 at Colorado Buffaloes
Folsom Field, Boulder, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 14 UCLA Bruins
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 21 at California Golden Bears
California Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 28 Washington State Cougars
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 4 at USC Trojans
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 11 Oregon State Beavers
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 18 at Oregon Ducks
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 25 at Arizona State Sun Devils
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA

 

[Superdeluxe]

Pac-12 schedules are coming out.

UW schedule

UW's 2017 Conference Football Schedule Revealed


Dawgs should be 7-0 heading into the Bye week. Love the placement of the Bye-week, right in the middle. We miss USC in the regular season, get Oregon at home. Four of last 5 will be at home.

 

[Olyduck]

ok that copy and paste does not translate well

 

[Olyduck]

Arizona State

Thursday
Aug. 31 New Mexico State Aggies
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 9 San Diego State Aztecs
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 16 at Texas Tech Red Raiders
Jones AT&T Stadium, Lubbock, TX Time TBA
TV TBA Buy
Tickets
Saturday
Sep. 23 Oregon Ducks
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 30 at Stanford Cardinal
Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 7 OFF
Saturday
Oct. 14 Washington Huskies
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 21 at Utah Utes
Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City, UT Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 28 USC Trojans
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 4 Colorado Buffaloes
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 11 at UCLA Bruins
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 18 at Oregon State Beavers
Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 25 Arizona Wildcats
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA

 

[Olyduck]

Cal

Saturday
Sep. 2 at North Carolina Tar Heels
Kenan Memorial Stadium, Chapel Hill, NC Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 9

Weber State Wildcats
California Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 16 Ole Miss Rebels
California Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 23 USC Trojans
California Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 30 at Oregon Ducks
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 7 at Washington Huskies
Husky Stadium, Seattle, WA Time TBA
TV TBA
Friday
Oct. 13 Washington State Cougars
California Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 21 Arizona Wildcats
California Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 28 at Colorado Buffaloes
Folsom Field, Boulder, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 4 Oregon State Beavers
California Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 11 OFF
Saturday
Nov. 18 at Stanford Cardinal
Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Friday
Nov. 24 at UCLA Bruins
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA

 

[Olyduck]

Oregon

Saturday
Sep. 2

Southern Utah Thunderbirds
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 9 Nebraska Cornhuskers
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR Time TBA
TV TBA Buy
Tickets
Saturday
Sep. 16 at Wyoming Cowboys
War Memorial Stadium, Laramie, WY Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 23 at Arizona State Sun Devils
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 30 California Golden Bears
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 7 Washington State Cougars
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 14 at Stanford Cardinal
Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 21 at UCLA Bruins
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 28 Utah Utes
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 4 at Washington Huskies
Husky Stadium, Seattle, WA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 11 OFF
Saturday
Nov. 18 Arizona Wildcats
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Friday
Nov. 24 Oregon State Beavers
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR Time TBA
TV TBA

 

[Olyduck]

Oregon State

Saturday
Sep. 2

Portland State Vikings
Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 9 Minnesota Golden Gophers
Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 16 at Washington State Cougars
Martin Stadium, Pullman, WA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 23 at Colorado State Rams
Colorado State Stadium, Fort Collins, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 30 Washington Huskies
Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 7 at USC Trojans
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 14 Colorado Buffaloes
Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 21 OFF
Thursday
Oct. 26 Stanford Cardinal
Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 4 at California Golden Bears
California Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 11 at Arizona Wildcats
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 18 Arizona State Sun Devils
Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Friday
Nov. 24 at Oregon Ducks
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR Time TBA
TV TBA

 

[Olyduck]

Stanford

Saturday
Sep. 2 at Rice Owls
Rice Stadium, Houston, TX Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 9 at USC Trojans
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 16 at San Diego State Aztecs
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 23 UCLA Bruins
Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 30 Arizona State Sun Devils
Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 7 at Utah Utes
Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City, UT Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 14 Oregon Ducks
Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 21 OFF
Thursday
Oct. 26 at Oregon State Beavers
Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 4 at Washington State Cougars
Martin Stadium, Pullman, WA Time TBA
TV TBA
Friday
Nov. 10 Washington Huskies
Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 18 California Golden Bears
Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 25 Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA Time TBA
TV TBA

 

[Olyduck]

USC

Saturday
Sep. 2 Western Michigan Broncos
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 9 Stanford Cardinal
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 16 Texas Longhorns
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA Buy
Tickets
Saturday
Sep. 23 at California Golden Bears
California Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Friday
Sep. 29 at Washington State Cougars
Martin Stadium, Pullman, WA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 7 Oregon State Beavers
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 14 Utah Utes
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 21 at Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Notre Dame Stadium, Notre Dame, IN Time TBA
NBC Buy
Tickets
Saturday
Oct. 28 at Arizona State Sun Devils
Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 4 Arizona Wildcats
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 11 at Colorado Buffaloes
Folsom Field, Boulder, CO Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 18 UCLA Bruins
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA

 

[Olyduck]

UCLA

Saturday
Sep. 2 Texas A&M Aggies
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 9 Hawaii Rainbow Warriors
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 16 at Memphis Tigers
Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium, Memphis, TN Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 23 at Stanford Cardinal
Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Sep. 30 Colorado Buffaloes
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 7 OFF
Saturday
Oct. 14 at Arizona Wildcats
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 21 Oregon Ducks
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Oct. 28 at Washington Huskies
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Friday
Nov. 3 at Utah Utes
Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City, UT Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 11 Arizona State Sun Devils
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Saturday
Nov. 18 at USC Trojans
LA Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles, CA Time TBA
TV TBA
Friday
Nov. 24 California Golden Bears
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA Time TBA
TV TBA