49ers are having trouble selling tickets

[shopson67]

Speaking of that, I'm curious. What is the attitude of the average St.Louis Ram fan now that the team is in L.A.? Will most still be supporting the Rams, or are most fans so pissed they'll be rooting for KC or some other team?

Can't speak to that myself, I'm a fan from afar (NY) and have been a fan since their first super bowl run in '79-80 when I was a kid.

 

[Broncos6482]

Speaking of that, I'm curious. What is the attitude of the average St.Louis Ram fan now that the team is in L.A.? Will most still be supporting the Rams, or are most fans so pissed they'll be rooting for KC or some other team?

Got a friend who grew up in St. Louis and was a Rams fan. He's pretty pissed at the NFL and Kroenke for everything. He'll basically never support the Rams again because of Kroenke, but he can't really just pick a new favorite team now. His wife is a Chiefs fan so I imagine he'll eventually cheer for them, especially since they live in Kansas City (when I jokingly suggested he should become a Broncos fan because we just won the Super Bowl, his wife gave him a don't even think about it look), but for now I think his favorite team is whoever is playing the Rams.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

Got a friend who grew up in St. Louis and was a Rams fan. He's pretty pissed at the NFL and Kroenke for everything. He'll basically never support the Rams again because of Kroenke, but he can't really just pick a new favorite team now. His wife is a Chiefs fan so I imagine he'll eventually cheer for them, especially since they live in Kansas City (when I jokingly suggested he should become a Broncos fan because we just won the Super Bowl, his wife gave him a don't even think about it look), but for now I think his favorite team is whoever is playing the Rams.

Maybe when the league finally does the expansion they want so bad your friend can be a fan of the London Silly Nannies.

 

[jarntt]

49ers fans have always been front runners and won't support a losing team. Rams fans belong in the same category.

Can't possibly put Rams fans in that same category, unless you're only discussing St Louis fans in general. Rams haven't been in front enough in the past 30 years to be front runners.

Can't speak to that myself, I'm a fan from afar (NY) and have been a fan since their first super bowl run in '79-80 when I was a kid.

So you admit to being a front runner???

 

[shopson67]

So you admit to being a front runner???

When I was 9 maybe. Stuck with a lot of crap in between though. That was the first time I really saw the team on TV.

Local team was the Bills and they have been my close 2nd favorite for all of that time as well, through all the 2-14 seasons before the Super Bowl run.

 

[GNG]

Can't possibly put Rams fans in that same category, unless you're only discussing St Louis fans in general. Rams haven't been in front enough in the past 30 years to be front runners.

You forgot about "The Greatest Show On Turf".

 

[GNG]

Define support. If your idea of support is paying bloated ticket prices to go to a stadium whose security is piss poor and whose overall fan experience is a C at best for a product that is shit because one man is a fucking imbecile, then FUCK YES, I don't support my team.

I still watch from 450 miles away, I still follow all things Niners, I just refuse to pay money to go to a second rate experience with a team doomed for failure because of an owner's stupidity. You are a Cowboys fan...you of all people should know this.

Yes I am a Cowboys fan and Jerry is an idiot but I still go to all the games regardless of team performance. I'm not a bandwagon fan.

 

[Pattersonca65]

It isn't the location that is the issue. Candlestick park was in a poor.location. Bad area with very limited public transportation access. The problem is with the new park, season ticket prices went up too much and the long time loyal fans were priced out. The new stadium is corporate with the dot com crowd. As it is, the SFBay Area region has become so damn expensive. It costs so much for the average person just to pay rent let alone buy football tickets. I used to go to Warrior games but even those are getting out of hand. I can't imagine what they will be when the new SF Arena opens. Might actually take my son to a 49er game next season if I can get some cheap tickets just so he can experience an NFL game

 

[megalodon30]

I wouldn't buy a ticket to see Blaine Gabbert.

 

[shopson67]

You forgot about "The Greatest Show On Turf".

That lasted 3-4 years tops and was over a decade ago. If limited to the St Louis window, then maybe you can stretch it. When widened to original LA fans, not so much.

 

[dredinis21]

Yes I am a Cowboys fan and Jerry is an idiot but I still go to all the games regardless of team performance. I'm not a bandwagon fan.

So your definition of bandwagon fan is someone who does NOT go to all the games? Half this fucking board became bandwagon fans over night then. Yup, seems like legit logic.

 

[GNG]

So your definition of bandwagon fan is someone who does NOT go to all the games? Half this fucking board became bandwagon fans over night then. Yup, seems like legit logic.

A real fan supports their team through thick and thin.

 

[elw4corps]

Not buying the change of location of the stadium for a second as an excuse. It's not like they built it out in Santa Cruz or Modesto. If anything, the location is more accessible to the Bay area masses in that location, then it's previous location considering the population base of San Jose and all the money located in that corridor of downtown SF, down to San Mateo, right through silicon valley row.

They were filling the stadium just fine two years ago.

This is about a crappy cheapskate owner, a crappy GM, and fanbase whose way more bandwagon than it used to be. It also doesn't help that they jacked the prices of tickets and seat licenses sky high.

Just throwing this out there but your a seahawks fan let's not start about bandwagon demographics in fandom. Statistically we average higher attendance for our home games from 2008 to 2015 than the seahawks did in the same time span. Even last year the niners were 12th in average home attendance. Now warranted some of those ticket sells are from opposing fans
Seattle Seahawks average attendance 2008-2015 | Statistic
San Francisco 49ers average attendance 2008-2015 | Statistic
NFL average attendance by team 2015 | Statistic

A real fan supports their team through thick and thin.

And you can do that by watching the games at home genius.

 

[dredinis21]

A real fan supports their team through thick and thin.

And what part of what I said read "bandwagon fan" to you? Support doesn't mean agreement with status quo. I love the Niners, hate the owner. That IS allowed. Like I said before, Cowboy fans of ALL people should get that.

 

[Clayton]

Speaking of that, I'm curious. What is the attitude of the average St.Louis Ram fan now that the team is in L.A.? Will most still be supporting the Rams, or are most fans so pissed they'll be rooting for KC or some other team?

Depends. The faithful Rams fans supported some of the worst football you'll ever see but the Rams didn't stay in STL long enough to get the multi-generational ties that you need for true hardcore fans to exist.

The old guys still watch Arizona Cardinals football on the side. Functionally the Rams are my 4th favorite sports team so they're my generations NFL Cardinals. I actually didn't have beef with LA fans until this but after seeing all of those asshats on message boards talking shit, its actually LA in general that I have issues with.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

It isn't the location that is the issue. Candlestick park was in a poor.location. Bad area with very limited public transportation access. The problem is with the new park, season ticket prices went up too much and the long time loyal fans were priced out. The new stadium is corporate with the dot com crowd. As it is, the SFBay Area region has become so damn expensive. It costs so much for the average person just to pay rent let alone buy football tickets. I used to go to Warrior games but even those are getting out of hand. I can't imagine what they will be when the new SF Arena opens. Might actually take my son to a 49er game next season if I can get some cheap tickets just so he can experience an NFL game

Agree with this post a lot!

Judging from my brief season ticket holder experience...Many hardcore NFL gate fans are regular Joes that make decent money, but are not loaded to the gills with cash.

Blank is funding 80% of the new ATL stadium...that has kept the price of the PSLs at an attainable level, but they are still not flying off the shelf...the avg. cost is $2500.

 

[SonnyCID]

Man, I've renounced my ties to that area because of the bs that goes on down there but listening to you people try to analyze it is boring. The south bay is loaded with 49ers fans. San Jose (you know, the city right next to Santa Clara) has a bigger population than SF. You don't think that the fact that the team was loaded with idiots constantly getting in trouble has something to do with the fact that people don't want to pay the ridiculous price that the 49ers are asking? You can get away with that crap when the team doesn't suck. When it does then people are going to put up the middle finger.

I didn't say it's the only issue. But it is a contributor. Just like high prices, bad teams, and poor ownership. Its a perect storm. Having a stadium 40 miles from the city it's named after will lead to less ticket sales when they're struggling, than a downtown stadium could provide because there just isn't the foot traffic or accesibility to food/drinks/sights in Santa Clara than there is in SF.

They would have trouble selling tickets with this product anywhere. But you can't convince me it would be exactly the same if the new stadium was built in SF.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Agree with this post a lot!

Judging from my brief season ticket holder experience...Many hardcore NFL gate fans are regular Joes that make decent money, but are not loaded to the gills with cash.

Blank is funding 80% of the new ATL stadium...that has kept the price of the PSLs at an attainable level, but they are still not flying off the shelf...the avg. cost is $2500.

Yea, those hardcore fans are the ones that faithfully go to the games win or lose. The ones with the corporate tix could care less.

 

[calsnowskier]

This goes beyond just losing. The FO is incompetent to a level that was previously only achieved by the Warriors and Clippers.

I think that the fans could handle losing if it were just losing. Supporting this team right now is quite simply the wrong thing to do. Boycotts need to happen to get the Yorks to liquidate. It wont happen, but they do not deserve the fans hard-earned money.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Yea, those hardcore fans are the ones that faithfully go to the games win or lose. The ones with the corporate tix could care less.

In our endzone section...of the people I got to know, we had 4 or 5 GM line workers (when we had a GM plant in ATL), a half dozen were H.S. teachers, couple small biz owners, a plumber, a landscaper...there was a CPA in our section and he might have been one of the higher income occupations in our section.

These guys and gals were at every game tailgating, win or lose...nearly everyone showed up for every reg. season game in my 2 yrs of holding a season ticket....and be hoarse on Monday.

Speaking of the corp tix...I'm one of these myself (meaning I like wine and cheese), but many of those folk are the wine and cheese crowd and like you said, they don't care that much.