DirtDirtDirt
Well-Known Member
I think he's better than Hernandez.
Ewww, Respectfully dis-agree.......Horrible Human issues aside, Hernandez was an absolute stud......Wide receiver skills in a TE body
I think he's better than Hernandez.
Ewww, Respectfully dis-agree.......Horrible Human issues aside, Hernandez was an absolute stud......Wide receiver skills in a TE body
Bennett is a much better blocker. He is waaay bigger and just as athletic, if not more.
I'd take Bennett over Hernandez any day, even if he wasn't a murderer.
Maybe a better blocker, Ill give you that, although hernandez had a good reputation blocking......
But Hernandez was a stretch the field TE like not many can......
We will see, cause the last time the Pats really successfully had 2 Tight Ends thrive in that offense, was the Gronk/Hernandez combo.....
They have brought in other deep threats in the past that did not pan out either though. Brandon Lloyd not too long ago. Was known as a highlight catch guy that had speed to burn going deep. Chad Johnson was known as a deep threat as well. They drafted Aaron Dobson with that in mind that he could be that next Randy Moss type deep threat.
No he wasn't a nobody. He was a well known guy known to have issues dedicating himselfBennett was basically a nobody when they Bears signed him, so they signed him at a cheap contract. He had a productive first year. His 2nd year, he "blew up". Had 90 receptions and led all TE's in that category. An argument could definitely be made that he had "outplayed his contract". So in his 3rd year (this last season) when he still wasn't given more money, he dogged it most the season.
He is a "head-case", but he is also a competitor (when happy). Him and Gronk in 2 TE sets is SCARY.
He is far superior to any 2nd TE they've ever had paired with Gronk.
Bennett was basically a nobody when they Bears signed him, so they signed him at a cheap contract. He had a productive first year. His 2nd year, he "blew up". Had 90 receptions and led all TE's in that category. An argument could definitely be made that he had "outplayed his contract". So in his 3rd year (this last season) when he still wasn't given more money, he dogged it most the season.
He is a "head-case", but he is also a competitor (when happy). Him and Gronk in 2 TE sets is SCARY.
He is far superior to any 2nd TE they've ever had paired with Gronk.
Incorrect......As a matter of fact, Randy Moss is the ONE guy that has thrived as a deep threat in the Brady era.......And Randy Moss built a HOF career with Duante Culppeper and Randall Cunningham throwing him Hail Marys'........So when you can name more than one guy that has thrived in New England as a deep threat, Ill tell you what a smart move it is for a deep threat to sign there
If he is "far superior" to Hernandez you can almost pencil NE in the SB right now...but, he is nowhere near the player that Hernandez was on the field. Not even close...
Brandon Lloyd had over 900 yards there and the season he was with different teams before and after he didn't do jack. It was the 2nd best season of his career in NE.
Chad Johnson was finished. He was only available for the Patriots because he was finished. He never had a good year again.
Dobson? He wasn't even really a deep threat at Marshall. Definitely not an NFL quality deep threat.
And other better attempts at evidence here?
Maybe next you'll throw Stallworth's name up there. Let me preempt you. He had a similar year in NE as he did the year before in Philly and then he didn't do anything anywhere else.
You aren't as smart as cdumler and he's wrong, so somehow you're even wronger.
Brandon Lloyd had over 900 yards there and the season he was with different teams before and after he didn't do jack. It was the 2nd best season of his career in NE.
Chad Johnson was finished. He was only available for the Patriots because he was finished. He never had a good year again.
Dobson? He wasn't even really a deep threat at Marshall. Definitely not an NFL quality deep threat.
And other better attempts at evidence here?
Maybe next you'll throw Stallworth's name up there. Let me preempt you. He had a similar year in NE as he did the year before in Philly and then he didn't do anything anywhere else.
So you are going to look at stats to try and prove your point? Lloyd also had his lowest yards per catch in NE showing he was not being used as a deep threat option. He did alright running the shorter routes but it wasn't what he was brought in for. In fact he only had 2 catches the entire season that went for over 30 yards. Just because he had decent yards doesn't mean he was a great deep threat in NE. Look beyond just some numbers to see what the truth is.
How about this...How about you name one person other than Randy Moss that has been a great deep threat at the WR position for NE since Brady took over as the starter?
Chad Johnson had 831 yards in 14 games the season before he headed to NE
He had 1047 yards the year prior to that
He had 276 yards in New England....Im sure it had nothing to do with the style of offense and the QB's ability to get the ball downfield
Brandon Lloyd had 1448 yards and 966 yards the 2 years prior to going to New England, with Kyle F**** Orton throwing him the ball
He than had 911 yards in New England...
So the worst of his last 3 seasons came in New England
So
yeah
No he wasn't a nobody. He was a well known guy known to have issues dedicating himself
Was 4 years and $20M a "cheap contract" for a TE in 2013?
And none of these guys went on to produce anywhere else after because...?
So you are going to look at stats to try and prove your point? Lloyd also had his lowest yards per catch in NE showing he was not being used as a deep threat option. He did alright running the shorter routes but it wasn't what he was brought in for. In fact he only had 2 catches the entire season that went for over 30 yards. Just because he had decent yards doesn't mean he was a great deep threat in NE. Look beyond just some numbers to see what the truth is.
How about this...How about you name one person other than Randy Moss that has been a great deep threat at the WR position for NE since Brady took over as the starter?
Show me a guy that left NE and was a great deep threat after?
Because "New England is the place Deep Threats go to Die"
Ya know, thats how we started the conversation