Both Mississippi schools in the playoffs?

[The Authority]

The structure of college football is completely different than any other sport. Also add into that fact that there are only 4 spots, which is significantly less than any of other sports and by a large margin. College football conferences and divisions are not created equal like all professional sports are. And while college basketball isn't there are 68 teams, so that set up is completely different too. I mean hell there are 5 P5 conferences and 4 spots so what's the point in only taking conference champs when one is left out anyway?

They are more equal then you want to believe. And yes Professional sports has had certain conferences a lot better than others.

Look at the NBA last year. The west was head and shoulder better than the east.

A ninth place West team was left out of the playoffs but could have been about 4th place in the East.

Thats just the breaks you have deal with in sports.

The SEC plays an entire conference schedule to determine who the best team is in that conference. We don't need a do over for any team that didn't win that conference.

 

[Rolltide94]

Thats just the breaks you have deal with in sports.

The SEC plays an entire conference schedule to determine who the best team is in that conference. We don't need a do over for any team that didn't win that conference.

It would be ridiculous for Bama and LSU to have not made the playoffs in '11, just like it would be ridiculous for tOSU and Michigan to have not made the playoffs in '06.

Any other opinion is not supported by the vast majority and is therefore a fringe opinion....and is just the breaks YOU will have to deal with in sports.

 

[The Authority]

It would be ridiculous for Bama and LSU to have not made the playoffs in '11, just like it would be ridiculous for tOSU and Michigan to have not made the playoffs in '06.

Any other opinion is not supported by the vast majority and is therefore a fringe opinion....and is just the breaks YOU will have to deal with in sports.

Its a new era and its not ridiculous at all.

In 2011 basically what you would have had is the loser of the division being rewarded by not having to play an extra game (CCG) and the winner being punished by having to play in that game. If in fact you are saying they both would go anyway.

That makes no sense.

 

[7Samurai13]

There is the Football Bowl Subdivision of NCAA Division I Football. Just aske the conference champions of the Mountain West, Sun Belt, Mid American, Conference USA, and American Athletic conferences. Their conference champions have no chances of winning a national championship.

TCU would have been there the year they won the Rose Bowl over Wisconsin and there have been years that Boise State would have made it. So saying that they have no chance is completely false.

 

[Rolltide94]

Its a new era and its not ridiculous at all.

In 2011 basically what you would have had is the loser of the division being rewarded by not having to play an extra game (CCG) and the winner being punished by having to play in that game. If in fact you are saying they both would go anyway.

That makes no sense.

LOOK, there is FRINGE and then there is you. If you are stupid enough to think that somehow this committee is going to pass over what the majority of people thought were the two best teams in four team playoff, when they got paired together in a two team playoff, then I'm sorry, there is no cure for stupid and you'll just have to learn to cope.

Just so we're clear, in your mind 2011 would have been 13-0 LSU, 11-1 Oklahoma St., 11-2 Oregon and who? 11-1 Boise St or 11-2 Wisconsin? Because it couldn't be #2 Alabama or #4 Stanford, #6 Arkansas. Only #7 Boise or #10 Wisconsin or #11 Virginia Tech meet your criteria...which is RIDICULOUS.

2006 would have been even worse, and you probably would have had to reach down to #9 Boise that year too...Starting to see a pattern here, you're not a Smiles alt are you?

 

[The Authority]

LOOK, there is FRINGE and then there is you. If you are stupid enough to think that somehow this committee is going to pass over what the majority of people thought were the two best teams in four team playoff, when they got paired together in a two team playoff, then I'm sorry, there is no cure for stupid and you'll just have to learn to cope.

Just so we're clear, in your mind 2011 would have been 13-0 LSU, 11-1 Oklahoma St., 11-2 Oregon and who? 11-1 Boise St or 11-2 Wisconsin? Because it couldn't be #2 Alabama or #4 Stanford, #6 Arkansas. Only #7 Boise or #10 Wisconsin or #11 Virginia Tech meet your criteria...which is RIDICULOUS.

2006 would have been even worse, and you probably would have had to reach down to #9 Boise that year too...Starting to see a pattern here, you're not a Smiles alt are you?

What is stupid is rewarding teams for losing their division and punishing the winners of that same division. Not sure why that is so difficult for you to grasp. If you are fine with that , then there is no cure for your own stupidity.

I won't lose a bit of sleep on however they decide it, however, I doubt the same can be said for you knowing how the majority of your fan base rolls. (no pun intended).

 

[podsox]

Show me a deserving team other than FSU.

what do you consider a deserving team? the entire SEC West has 1 combined win over a non-conference ranked team (auburn over kstate). Alabama hasn't beaten a ranked team. ole miss's best win is over alabama. when u deal with this many teams and so little head to head matchups u cant just assume that the sec 2-4 is better than other conferences best teams.

 

[podsox]

It would be ridiculous for Bama and LSU to have not made the playoffs in '11, just like it would be ridiculous for tOSU and Michigan to have not made the playoffs in '06.

Any other opinion is not supported by the vast majority and is therefore a fringe opinion....and is just the breaks YOU will have to deal with in sports.

did u see what happened to those 2 teams in 2006?

 

[The Authority]

did u see what happened to those 2 teams in 2006?

thats just it. No one knows if one conference team can beat another.


Using your "preceived" best team approach UF would have gotten in in 2012 even though they lost their division to UGA and UGA would have been left out simply because they won the division and then had to go play a CCG.

Then look what happened to Florida. Got rolled by a Big EAST. Just because there is a perception that the #2 team in a conference is better than another conference champ doesn't mean that in reality they are.

Which is why you should have to win something first before being let in.

 

[ericd7633]

[ QUOTE =The Authority;5699561]But there is no way to know who the 4 best are.

That is why each conference has a conference schedule and a conference championship game. To determine a conference champion. Then you know out that entire group, who the best is.

Then you take those winners and have them play the winners of the other conference who also just went through an entire season to determine who the best is.

Does this just make too much sense for you to grasp ?[/QUOTE]

I perfectly understand your concept. I just think it's retarded is all. I want the 4 most deserving teams. Which if there are equal records is easy to figure out based on SOS and quality wins.

 

[The Authority]

[ QUOTE =The Authority;5699561]

I perfectly understand your concept. I just think it's retarded is all. I want the 4 most deserving teams. Which if there are equal records is easy to figure out based on SOS and quality wins.

Why is it retarded when you have an entire conference schedule and CCG to figure out who the best team is in a particular group and then use that outcome to set up a playoff.

You want everything to depend on subjective things.

Do you want most deserving or perceived best because those could be two different things and still are not a definite thing..

 

[ericd7633]

They are more equal then you want to believe. And yes Professional sports has had certain conferences a lot better than others.

Look at the NBA last year. The west was head and shoulder better than the east.

A ninth place West team was left out of the playoffs but could have been about 4th place in the East.

Thats just the breaks you have deal with in sports.

The SEC plays an entire conference schedule to determine who the best team is in that conference. We don't need a do over for any team that didn't win that conference.

Sure conferences are better than other conferences in pro sports. That doesn't mean they don't all play under the same rules and restrictions. The Spurs are a lot better than the Sixers. But they still have to follow the same rules and regulations put forth by the league. If you honestly think the structure of college football and pro sports are equal then I'm sorry for you. And you keep bringing up the SEC as why I want this rule. And that's not the case I all. I want the four most deserving teams. I don't give a shit what conference they play in.

 

[The Authority]

I want the four most deserving teams.

The problem with this thought process is that you can't define it. Nor does most deserving mean best.

 

[ericd7633]

Why is it retarded when you have an entire conference schedule and CCG to figure out who the best team is in a particular group and then use that outcome to set up a playoff.

You want everything to depend on subjective things.

Do you want most deserving or perceived best because those could be two different things and still are not a definite thing..

Because the 2nd best team in a conference could be more deserving than a winner of another conference. And it wouldn't be that difficult to figure it out. I want the most deserving teams. I don't give a shit about perception. Full seasons worth of games should make it easy based on W/L, SOS, and quality wins.

 

[ericd7633]

The problem with this thought process is that you can't define it. Nor does most deserving mean best.

Perfect example was ND in 2012. Were they the best team in the country? No. Did they deserve to be in what would have been the playoff? Yes, because they were 12-0 played a top 15 schedule and had 3 top 25 wins.

 

[The Authority]

Because the 2nd best team in a conference could be more deserving than a winner of another conference. And it wouldn't be that difficult to figure it out. I want the most deserving teams. I don't give a shit about perception. Full seasons worth of games should make it easy based on W/L, SOS, and quality wins.

Then the 2nd best team in that conference would/could then be rewarded for losing the conference and the winner of that same conference would be punished.

That doesn't fit the concept.

 

[The Authority]

Perfect example was ND in 2012. Were they the best team in the country? No. Did they deserve to be in what would have been the playoff? Yes, because they were 12-0 played a top 15 schedule and had 3 top 25 wins.

Right and in your world in that year you would have put in Florida who would have been rewarded for losing their division where Georgia would have punished for winning it.

That is Retardation to the fullest.

 

[ericd7633]

Right and in your world in that year you would have put in Florida who would have been rewarded for losing their division where Georgia would have punished for winning it.

That is Retardation to the fullest.

Yep and you would have put in FSU who just got their shit stomped in by Florida. Is that some sort of Einstein thought process.

 

[The Authority]

Because the 2nd best team in a conference could be more deserving than a winner of another conference. And it wouldn't be that difficult to figure it out. I want the most deserving teams. I don't give a shit about perception. Full seasons worth of games should make it easy based on W/L, SOS, and quality wins.

You keep wanting everything to be defined by B.S. rankings, SOS, and computers. All Subjective stuff.

My way is taking as much of that subjective shit out of it as possible.

 

[The Authority]

Yep and you would have put in FSU who just got their shit stomped in by Florida. Is that some sort of Einstein thought process.

Why is that any different than Florida getting their shit pushed in by Georgia?

FSU wasn't directly rewarded for the loss like UF would have been by losing to UGA.