Can we see some highlights? What are his measurements? Is he projected to go in day 3 or be an undrafted free agent?
Stroud is still going top 4 I'd imagine. The cognition thing and the fact that Houston doesn't like Strouds agent might push Levis or AR ahead of him. Vegas has Levis as the favorite to go #2 overall right now.S2 Cognition Test results are in: Bryce Young (98%) and Will Levis (93%) aced it, CJ Stroud and Hendon Hooker produced low scores. Young put up a higher score than Josh Allen, Justin Fields, and Joe Burrow (all of them produced 90% range numbers). Do you think this matters? Will this hurt Stroud's stock? @Clayton @shopson67 @Southieinnc
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That's an interesting turn of events. I always thought Young would be the 1st off the board, now it looks like Stroud might be 3rd or 4th (or *gulp* 5th) off the board. Do you think teams believe the Georgia's game was an aberration, like Haskins vs. Michigan? BTW - My view of Young has gone way up. I think he might be the real deal.Stroud is still going top 4 I'd imagine. The cognition thing and the fact that Houston doesn't like Strouds agent might push Levis or AR ahead of him. Vegas has Levis as the favorite to go #2 overall right now.
Bryce's height is still a thing for me to be honest, but hey, Drew Brees was a successful shorty, so I guess it could work (anyone who believes Brees was 6' tall is lying lol)...That's an interesting turn of events. I always thought Young would be the 1st off the board, now it looks like Stroud might be 3rd or 4th (or *gulp* 5th) off the board. Do you think teams believe the Georgia's game was an aberration, like Haskins vs. Michigan? BTW - My view of Young has gone way up. I think he might be the real deal.
Not sure if it was this thread or another, but I called out Stroud as the best of the bunch in this group. This information has me back pedaling from that big time. I am now in the camp of every one of these QBs have serious questions about them.S2 Cognition Test results are in: Bryce Young (98%) and Will Levis (93%) aced it, CJ Stroud and Hendon Hooker produced low scores. Young put up a higher score than Josh Allen, Justin Fields, and Joe Burrow (all of them produced 90% range numbers). Do you think this matters? Will this hurt Stroud's stock? @Clayton @shopson67 @Southieinnc
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I had him as my #1 too. Now he's my #4. My order is Young (yes, he's under-sized for the position), Levis, Richardson, Stroud, and then Hooker.Not sure if it was this thread or another, but I called out Stroud as the best of the bunch in this group. This information has me back pedaling from that big time. I am now in the camp of every one of these QBs have serious questions about them.
What a difference a year makes. This time last year I thought this QB crop would be stellar. It’s definitely lost a lot of shine. The best QBs from this draft may come from the later rounds in good situations where they can grow and develop without that instant pressure of having to be the franchise QB.
I don’t think I’d squabble with your order much at all. At the same time, in a group where each of the 5 have legitimate risk concerns, I may prop AR up to being even the top guy on my board. If I’m picking through risky product, I want to zone in on the one with the greatest upside since I’m taking on risk in all choices. If I’m QB desperate I think my real choice right now is to trade out from the top with the hopes of getting more draft capital for next year’s draft. I want a 2024 draft asset laden deal for me to look at Caleb Williams or Maye from NC next year. I’m thinking of a squad like Indy here.I had him as my #1 too. Now he's my #4. My order is Young (yes, he's under-sized for the position), Levis, Richardson, Stroud, and then Hooker.
You seem to be channeling Houston's POV here: If you're not 100% confident in the "Big 5", then go for a positional player. Much higher success rate. I think you run into major issues when you "force a pick" so to speak.I don’t think I’d squabble with your order much at all. At the same time, in a group where each of the 5 have legitimate risk concerns, I may prop AR up to being even the top guy on my board. If I’m picking through risky product, I want to zone in on the one with the greatest upside since I’m taking on risk in all choices. If I’m QB desperate I think my real choice right now is to trade out from the top with the hopes of getting more draft capital for next year’s draft. I want a 2024 draft asset laden deal for me to look at Caleb Williams or Maye from NC next year. I’m thinking of a squad like Indy here.
You run into issues both ways. Broncos really screwed up when they drafted Paxton Lynch but they also weren't successful drafting bpa and ignoring QB the years after that.You seem to be channeling Houston's POV here: If you're not 100% confident in the "Big 5", then go for a positional player. Much higher success rate. I think you run into major issues when you "force a pick" so to speak.
Fair point. At the same time, there’s no right path for a poor organization that continually makes poor evaluations at every position.You run into issues both ways. Broncos really screwed up when they drafted Paxton Lynch but they also weren't successful drafting bpa and ignoring QB the years after that.
I'd say you either need two of the following three: a top tier coach, a genius GM, or a franchise QB.Fair point. At the same time, there’s no right path for a poor organization that continually makes poor evaluations at every position.
I'd say 'and' you absolutely need a little old fashioned luck.OR...you need a little old fashion LUCK too.
His height doesn't worry me as much as his frame. Dude's basically got my bone structure, and I should not be playing football.Bryce's height is still a thing for me to be honest, but hey, Drew Brees was a successful shorty, so I guess it could work (anyone who believes Brees was 6' tall is lying lol)...
We all understand that QBs are more valuable than any other position. But I believe the point is about comfort level. Drafts are all about projections and finding players they feel will fit their schemes. High stakes poker. If you draft a QB high, particularly in the first round, he better be ABOVE AVERAGE. For example, does anybody here think Zach Wilson is a better NFL player than Ja'Marr Chase?I'd say you either need two of the following three: a top tier coach, a genius GM, or a franchise QB.
Will Anderson won't get you to the Super bowl but six picks of that caliber might
You never know. Most have been coddled from JR High on. Some don't respond so well when the playing field is level. Hard to measure heart and desire.I'd say 'and' you absolutely need a little old fashioned luck.
The point of doing everything else is to minimize the amount of luck you need imo