scotsman1948
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i know you like Shields but we would give up at least 2 level-A starters and maybe 2 other minor leaguers is he worth that?
i know you like Shields but we would give up at least 2 level-A starters and maybe 2 other minor leaguers is he worth that?
i know you like Shields but we would give up at least 2 level-A starters and maybe 2 other minor leaguers is he worth that?
I thought he could opt out after this year... if not, he's still worth it. He won 16 games with that anemic offense.
looking at his September stats it appears that he still has something left in the tank. he made 6 starts, 41.0 IP, 38 hits his record was only 3-2 but he went 6.0 in 1 game 6.1 in another and the rest were 7 innings or more. i don't think he's the answer if CJ walks but if we keep CJ i might let Colby go and bring in Oswalt
and from reading comments made by the Rangers toward the end of the season and during the early post-season their interest in Darvish has diminished as the interest by other teams has increased. it seems now that the Rangers are more intent on re-signing CJ and then looking at maintaining their starter & relief staffs as they are now. that would require re-signing Michael Gonzalez and either re-signing Oliver or looking at another lefthander to replace him.
that being said, they may still look at an upgrade at the one starter position that is a regular season weak spot.
It's pretty typical for a team to down play interest in a particular player at this time of the year. Doesn't mean a lot one way or the other until the FA process kicks into gear.
i know you like Shields but we would give up at least 2 level-A starters and maybe 2 other minor leaguers is he worth that?
You think Oswalt has more in the tank than Colby?
Oswalt is no better than a #5 for the part of the year he's not on the DL. TEX had that last year with Rich Harden. Oswalt adds no value for the season he'd be taking a roster spot ... and blocks a spot for a better deserving future SP.
I never thought Harden brought anything ... I was always very vocal denouncing him and locking horns with Jeremy over him at the old place.
Webb ditto. I was just saying there is more potential upside from Webb than Oswalt in 2012 ... if TEX were to sign Webb to deal that is contingent on him making the roster this time instead of the gift he got last year. Roy Oswalt has had a great 11 year career ... but career numbers are meaningless when projecting what a 34yo pitcher with an injury history next year.
I'd take Colby Lewis over Roy Oswalt at this point in their careers and doubt that TEX would do nothing more than offer Oswalt a minor league deal and invitation to camp. Actually ... he may look around for a gig back in Houston or I bet he retires.
Maybe I'm wrong ... but if he had anything left in his tank ... why did PHL decide not to exercise its $2mil club option? Not even for only $2mil would PHL go for him ... why should anyone else?
mainly because they have with him 5 #1 or #2 starters and a couple of very good prospects ( Holliday, Lee, Hamels, Worley, Blanton, Kendrick and Oswalt) that are ready to step in. and they are willing to take the salary drop.
and actually the Phillies declined to pick up the 16M option and instead gave him the 2M buyout per his contract.
or because he's 34 years old with 11 years of pitching wear and tear on his body
Regular wear and tear AND a legitimately balky back
Regular wear and tear AND a legitimately balky back
he had some back issues this season. before this season he had averaged 32+ starts a season and 15 wins and negative injury issues from the 2004 season to the 2010 season. and he appeared to have overcome the injury during the last month of the season with 6 starts in September
he had some back issues this season. before this season he had averaged 32+ starts a season and 15 wins and negative injury issues from the 2004 season to the 2010 season. and he appeared to have overcome the injury during the last month of the season with 6 starts in September
Yes but he's had the issues with his back for a while, and just bc he was able to pitch through it for a few years doesn't mean it wasnt an issue
Also just bc he came back doesnt mean they wont flare back up
I think last year was just the beginning of the end