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Maxine promoted this type of behavior. :noidea:
 

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Stereo type much ?
 

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According to the Guardians Tally of the approximately 1001 people killed by police in 2015 in America 502 are white , 250 are black , 163 are Hispanic 18 were Asian /pacific , 13 American Indian and 54 other/unknown . Not only are these figures show that in real . numbers that whites are killed more often then police then blacks but when contrasted in proportion to the crimes rates of each group whites are in fact more likely to be killed then any other race . Of the 566 police related shootings so far this year 279 were white 136 were black .

Now the press and other " advocacy " groups will have you believe that police target. Minorities for execution. The above numbers don't bare that out at all . That doesn't mean that these shootings were justifiable . What these numbers suggest is that we are being mislead by people with ulterior motives
 

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According to the Guardians Tally of the approximately 1001 people killed by police in 2015 in America 502 are white , 250 are black , 163 are Hispanic 18 were Asian /pacific , 13 American Indian and 54 other/unknown . Not only are these figures show that in real . numbers that whites are killed more often then police then blacks but when contrasted in proportion to the crimes rates of each group whites are in fact more likely to be killed then any other race . Of the 566 police related shootings so far this year 279 were white 136 were black .

Now the press and other " advocacy " groups will have you believe that police target. Minorities for execution. The above numbers don't bare that out at all . That doesn't mean that these shootings were justifiable . What these numbers suggest is that we are being mislead by people with ulterior motives

But wait. White criminals are privileged enough to be killed by cops more.
 

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Now that’s collusion
 

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More lies by the left
 

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1- I am not sure how that is threatening the press with anything other than what is appropriate. The press cannot go around putting out information that is wrong about people. That is libel. If guilty of putting out fake news, that lisence should be challenged, and if appropriate revoked. Much of the news being put out is FAKE.

Where did I say I am OK with him pardoning himself? I said technically he can. The problem is he can’t. You can’t pardon a person for a crime when the crime has never been charged. So if he were guilty of a crime, he would be impeached, then the charges brought, and he would be unable. I want all politicians to be held to a higher standard, not a lower one according to law. I think they should all be investigated.

Who said loyal to Trump over the country? I want the FBI to do their job and not go after a sitting POTUS or candidate without credible information.


11- You believe it is harmful to the nation. That doesn’t make it so.

1 - saying their licenses should be revoked isnt inappropriate? If it's libel take them to court. Most of it is not fake it's just a slant you don't like.


*shrug* the evidence suggests it is harmful to this country. It's not just some willy nilly feeling.
 

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1 - saying their licenses should be revoked isnt inappropriate? If it's libel take them to court. Most of it is not fake it's just a slant you don't like.


*shrug* the evidence suggests it is harmful to this country. It's not just some willy nilly feeling.

spending the majority of a major "news" networks time covering Trumps medical report while there was another major active islamic terrorist attack at an Ariana Grande concert may not be fake per se but it is also not news.

IMO it totally fits the "fake news" bill


fake news is real and its out of control.... above is a great monologue on the subject by liberal Bill Maher
 

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everyone has ties ebb . just because you do/did business with them doesnt make you guilty of a crime.praising dictators isnt a crime either . sorry to burst your bubble but in the real world countries have to talk/negotiate with dictators

the press has been acting like the enemy . what do you call slanting coverage one way , pushing agendas the people dont want and constantly attacking the duly elected president

do you honestly think russia hasnt meddlde in our elections since 1917 ? do you honestly think russia/ n vietnam didnt have agents in those Vietnam protests ?

show me evidence of a crime ? almost 2 years and no evidence of anything from trump did .

the premise of your question is wrong

what you should be asking is do i want my president not knowing how to handle classified information? people like me who have handled classified information know she is lying and KNOW if we did the same thing we would be in jail . does a known Trump hater get to alter wording in such a manner as to protect his favorite candidate and having her avoid charges ? and it gets to be called credible ? peter strozk did that , he was the lead investigator in the clinton case and then joined the mueller team . he said he would STOP DJT from being elected and he had an insurance policy to keep him from taking office . only someone who is a hater or totally naive would argue that is on the up and up

should my president be held accountable for bleach bitting 30000 subpoened emails . do innocent people destroy cell phones under subpeona ?

does one candidate get to rig a primary election against another ?

should justice be handled equally ? do you exonerate a suspect BEFORE she is interviewed ? do you give immunity to people surrounding one campaign but fail to do the same to the other ?

does a fair press give one campaign the questions to a debate but not the other ? should one candidate have to debate alleged moderators as well as the opposing candidate ? does a fair press get focus all its stories to about a 90% negative and 10 % positive and not be told its extremely biased ?

does a press get to use photos from their favorite president time period and pass them off as the current ones and be called credible ?

do you allow lead inspectors to investigate their favorite candidate , then turn around and let the investigate the guy they hate and expect fairness ?

should the FBI and the DOJ be allowed to rig elections ? . should a sitting president be allowed to spy on an opposition candidates campaign without probable cause . should anyone in law enforce be allowed to lie or cover-up information when applying for a fisa warrant

this "investigation" is turning up this and if you watched news other then the MSM 24-7 you would have know about this 18 months ago . or else you just dont like trump and dont care how you get rid of him . but be careful because the same tactics can be used against someone you like

Not everybody has ties like that. If it was just business ties he wouldnt be under investigation.

Nobody said praising dictators is illegal. Im saying its pathetic. And its something you wouldnt have tolerated from Obama.

The press has biases sure. But it goes both ways. Theres plenty of biased right wing news. Trump is heavily criticized by the press in large part because he does things worthy or criticism. The media has to report on what he does.

I dont think Russia meddled like they did in 2016 before no. I have no reason to believe that.

Saying theres "no evidence" is false. For one there has been plenty linking the campaign to Russian attempts to influence the election. Now whether trump is guilty of anything or not remains to be seen but hes currently under investigation. The evidence will come out when the imvestigation is complete. The fact that you havent seen the evidence does not mean that the evidence does not exist or hasnt already been found by Mueller.

Why is the premise wrong? You havent answered my question - would you tolerate all that from Obama?

Ahh ok now you're trying to deflect and avoid the question and just turn it into "but the democrats!"

Im not sure what Hillary has to do with what I asked you but no what she did wasnt ok. That said i dont think we can trust Trump with classified information at all either.

Also you seem to be very upset about press coverage of Trump during the campaign but a couple points on that..

1. Trump said a LOT of stupid shit while campaigning. If he didnt constantly say stupid shit the coverage wouldnt have been so negative.

2. Trump actually likely benefitted from all the free advertising he received from the media

3. Hillarys emails were a huuuuge story during the election so coverage of both candidates was frequently negative (which again - they both had nobody to blame but themselves for that).

The FBI and DOJ didnt rig an election thats complete BS.

A sitting president did not spy on an opposition campaign as you put it. Again - complete BS.

Where is your evidence that information was lied about to get the warrant?

I dont know how many times i have to tell you i dont watch MSM cable.

This investigation is legitimate as far as we know. When the investigation is complete we will see what they have uncovered. Maybe its nothing maybe itll be massively incriminating. Im comfortable waiting for a highly respected person like Robert Mueller to complete his legal investigation. Why do you feel the need to automatically discredit his investigation with little to no evidence? Its not partisanship and fear of what might happen if he completes his investigation is it?
 

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Why would I stop saying it is an illegal warrant? The warrant was illegal.

Apparently. If the FBI omitted (suppressed) where they got the information, then yes it is a crime of perjury.

If you don’t know the crime committed by an individual, you can’t have probable cause of a crime. Obama colluded in Israel’s election with Netanyahu’s opposition to the tune of hundreds of thousands in tax payer money. So why is it ok for us to interfere in the election of other countries but think it is bad when they do it?

You keep saying it was illegal but providing no proof for that claim. You cant just say things into existence.

Do we have reason to think they did?

Am i missing something? Nobody said it was ok for us to interfere in other countries elections.
 
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