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gkekoa

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True! Soooo... stop saying it's an illegal warrant maybe? But that wouldn't fit your partisan leanings so you can't do that.

Am i missing something here?

And this last part i don't even know what your point is honestly.

Why would I stop saying it is an illegal warrant? The warrant was illegal.

Apparently. If the FBI omitted (suppressed) where they got the information, then yes it is a crime of perjury.

If you don’t know the crime committed by an individual, you can’t have probable cause of a crime. Obama colluded in Israel’s election with Netanyahu’s opposition to the tune of hundreds of thousands in tax payer money. So why is it ok for us to interfere in the election of other countries but think it is bad when they do it?
 

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Dude.. seriously.. how long does the look at what Obama Card last for?? And how does Obama did this, justify Trump upping the Anti??

At least half as long as the Bush card did.

How did Trump up the anti? Obama interfered and nobody cares. Trump may have colluded according to you and everybody goes ape shit.
 

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Thats the part that gets me.

@gkekoa @Skins2021 @skinsdad62 @HTTR08

If Russia interfered with our elections to help obama, Obama's campaign had ties to russia, obama was being investigated for those ties and obama was threatening to fire the people leading that investigation, obama was praising dictators and calling the press the enemy of the people, and saying that worst case he could just pardon himself...

Are you telling me you WOULDN'T be outraged at all that and calling for his removal from office?

(Keep in mind i didn't mention policy once in the above)

Without evidence...I wouldn’t.

I defended Obama on numerous occasions...not his policies. I did say let’s see how it would work out.
 

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My guess would be after two years of investigation, he knows people are being unjustly harassed. My guess is...he has something they could find because we all do.

Who are his minions? What powers is he exerting?

The difference is...we all know Hillary is guilty because we all knew the evidence. Hell, Xomey admitted she was guilty.


Trey Gowdy spent OVER two years chasing Benghazi.. and we got NOTHING and no one found guilty of any thing.

Russia has been under investigation for LESS than two years, but now that Trump might be implicated, we need to wrap this the fuck up.

OK no party Bias there.
 

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At least half as long as the Bush card did.

How did Trump up the anti? Obama interfered and nobody cares. Trump may have colluded according to you and everybody goes ape shit.


Trump FIRED those looking into his campaign BECAUSE they were looking into his campaign.
 

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Trey Gowdy spent OVER two years chasing Benghazi.. and we got NOTHING and no one found guilty of any thing.

Russia has been under investigation for LESS than two years, but now that Trump might be implicated, we need to wrap this the fuck up.

OK no party Bias there.

Trey Gowdy investigated Benghazi because the DOJ continually didn’t supply the information requested. Four people lost their lives at Benghazi and there was a clear cover up led by the Obama’s Administration.

Trump has been under investigation for a non-crime and no evidence has been supplied other than that given by information bought and paid for by he opposition campaign.

So...you are correct. No party bias.
 

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He didn’t say he fired him simply because of the Russia investigation. He fired because he was duped and acted outside the law.


Yea ok slick. And you find nothing wrong with him firing the guy who might expose him.

Got it.
 

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None...if he had reason to...which he did.

Answer me this...if collusion is not an actual crime, why is there an investigation?


Because collusion has a tendency to lead to other crimes. Funny how that works
 

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I am still wondering why having political posts on this forum is a good idea.
 

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Maybe it does but that isn’t really Constitutional grounds to start an investigation.


The doj thought it was. And pretty sure if this were not leading to Trump bring implicated, you would be all for this investigation.
 

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The doj thought it was. And pretty sure if this were not leading to Trump bring implicated, you would be all for this investigation.

I would be all for it if it was done legally and Hillary wasn’t a reason behind it.

By he way, I do have an issue with collusion in general. It should be illegal and every member of the government should get an annual audit, checking for kickbacks from their decisions.
 

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I would be all for it if it was done legally and Hillary wasn’t a reason behind it.

By he way, I do have an issue with collusion in general. It should be illegal and every member of the government should get an annual audit, checking for kickbacks from their decisions.


Here is the thing... Trump is partly the subject of this probe because Russia did meddle in our election process. Their meddling likely did help Trump (to a degree). And the reality is, if Trump or some one in his camp solicited Russia in this effort... party be damned.. this is something the American people deserve to know. NOw I honestly hope that they find Trump wasnt involved. Because to think the man with control of the Nuke Football was willing to work with a dictator to gain office, should scare the living shit out of all of us.
 

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Here is the thing... Trump is partly the subject of this probe because Russia did meddle in our election process. Their meddling likely did help Trump (to a degree). And the reality is, if Trump or some one in his camp solicited Russia in this effort... party be damned.. this is something the American people deserve to know. NOw I honestly hope that they find Trump wasnt involved. Because to think the man with control of the Nuke Football was willing to work with a dictator to gain office, should scare the living shit out of all of us.

The information gained from it was all true, so no it doesn't scare me a bit
 
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