Not Another Word About Zeke.....

[Manster7588]

PhillyGreen uses the DA "BELIEVED" something happened as to why he thinks Zeke is guilty, then gives me a SHIT award for pointing out how absurd it sounded.

 

[Earl Stevens]

I assumed you were living in some alternate universe when Zeke was suspended, fighting the suspension and finally giving up.

As far as the prosecutor believing that there were violent altercations with Elliott and his accuser here is a link with a direct quote. Cowboys RB Ezekiel Elliott, accuser had violent incidents, prosecutor believes

I get it.... you are a homer with your head far up Elliott's and Jerrah's ass.

I'm well aware of the suspension but my response was to this:

"To me that tells me that Zeke did put his hands on her. My opinion is that she was a money hungry hoe looking for a payday and pushed his buttons enough to get him to put his hands on her. He was stupid enough to fall for it. He should have avoided her ass after the first incident."

That is your opinion and nothing is factual. This isn't an episode of Law and Order. Only a few people really know what happened. It really has nothing to do with me being a "homer" or having my head up anyone's ass. If anyone's bias was revealed, it was yours with that statement. If you knew anything at all about me you'd know that I can't stand Jerry Jones and would have advocated cutting Zeke if the indisputable truth came out that he abused that girl. I've even went as far as wishing Jerry Jones was dead. That statement was pretty funny reading.

 

[Across The Field]

The NFL believed enough to suspend and the city prosecutor believed that there was some violent interactions between Zeke and his accuser. My understanding there was not enough to convict and I accept that. To me that tells me that Zeke did put his hands on her. My opinion is that she was a money hungry hoe looking for a payday and pushed his buttons enough to get him to put his hands on her. He was stupid enough to fall for it. He should have avoided her ass after the first incident.

No, actually it didn't. Only Goodell did, and that was only because he fucked up the Ray Rice situation so badly.

Zeke was no more than a victim of an inept commissioner feeling the need to overcompensate for previous gross negligence.

Report: NFL investigator recommended no suspension for Ezekiel Elliott

 

[fordman84]

No, actually it didn't. Only Goodell did, and that was only because he fucked up the Ray Rice situation so badly.

Zeke was no more than a victim of an inept commissioner feeling the need to overcompensate for previous gross negligence.

Report: NFL investigator recommended no suspension for Ezekiel Elliott

Correct. The NFL investigation found there wasn't any credible proof that Zeke hit that woman. IN fact there was a TON of proof it was all a revenge set up.

Goodell ignored her findings.

 

[fordman84]

Every investigation found no evidence Zeke abused her.

Anyone that didn't investigate said "there is reason to believe", and ran with that.

 

[PDay8810]

PhillyGreen uses the DA "BELIEVED" something happened as to why he thinks Zeke is guilty, then gives me a SHIT award for pointing out how absurd it sounded.

this guy isn't worth the effort. He hates all things cowboys and will never be objective about anything Dallas.
It's like pissing in the wind to even try.

 

[PhillyGreen]

I'm well aware of the suspension but my response was to this:

"To me that tells me that Zeke did put his hands on her. My opinion is that she was a money hungry hoe looking for a payday and pushed his buttons enough to get him to put his hands on her. He was stupid enough to fall for it. He should have avoided her ass after the first incident."

That is your opinion and nothing is factual. This isn't an episode of Law and Order. Only a few people really know what happened. It really has nothing to do with me being a "homer" or having my head up anyone's ass. If anyone's bias was revealed, it was yours with that statement. If you knew anything at all about me you'd know that I can't stand Jerry Jones and would have advocated cutting Zeke if the indisputable truth came out that he abused that girl. I've even went as far as wishing Jerry Jones was dead. That statement was pretty funny reading.

The definition of “opinion” is this: “a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.” I do not recall once ever saying that I am completely right and you or anyone else was wrong. I merely stated my opinion. On top of that I admitted that my opinion was based on “conjecture” Do you need me to supply that definition as well?

I stand by my opinion and I am not changing it. I do not recall ever asking any of you to change my mind. If you disagree with my opinion say so and move on. Here is the thing. You stated my opinion was wrong and it was not factual but your opinion is based off the same inadequacies that you accuse me of. No one has provided any proof that Elliot did not put his hands on his girlfriend. The only thing you guys can provide is information that someone is of an “opinion” that she is not credible. That is not proof and before some of you go getting your panties in a wad show me where I claimed this woman was a victim.

People can go back and forth about what happened and the only people that truly know the entire truth and Ezekiel Elliott and Tiffany Thompson. As I previously stated. I never defended Tiffany Thompson. I even stated that it is my opinion that she instigated the entire thing and would provoke Elliot. Elliot was not all the forthcoming either. The NFL requested that he provided his texts and call logs with Thompson over a certain and he only provided redacted and incomplete records. If he was being 100% truthful and did not do anything wrong what did he have to hide? With that said he was within his right to withhold this information and to be honest I can’t say that I blame him. Unless I am required by law to provide information I am not giving up any information that would incriminate me. That is a double edge sword though when you are in a battle where you have no power and the other side has all the power. They can infer anything they want because of simple omissions.

 

[Across The Field]

I stand by my opinion and I am not changing it. I do not recall ever asking any of you to change my mind. If you disagree with my opinion say so and move on. Here is the thing. You stated my opinion was wrong and it was not factual but your opinion is based off the same inadequacies that you accuse me of. No one has provided any proof that Elliot did not put his hands on his girlfriend. The only thing you guys can provide is information that someone is of an “opinion” that she is not credible. That is not proof and before some of you go getting your panties in a wad show me where I claimed this woman was a victim.

This is retarded. There's no proof that you don't beat your wife, either. However, you'd be awful pissed if someone ran with that and said "Well it's my opinion you beat your wife".

If Zeke was an Eagle, you know damn well you'd be defending him.

 

[PhillyGreen]

This is retarded. There's no proof that you don't beat your wife, either. However, you'd be awful pissed if someone ran with that and said "Well it's my opinion you beat your wife".

If Zeke was an Eagle, you know damn well you'd be defending him.

Here is the thing. I don't beat my wife and there have been no complaints about me beating my wife and there are no pictures of my wife having bruises after being in my presence. So your argument is just fucking stupid.

As it pertains if I would defend him if he were an a Eagle I say you are full of shit. Take the Jamies Winston incident for instance. It is my understand that one of the Eagles CB's (Darby) lied for him when his uber investigation was ongoing. I personally feel that given the fact that he lied he should face the same suspension as Winston...... I made that comment weeks ago.

 

[fordman84]

Here is the thing. I don't beat my wife and there have been no complaints about me beating my wife and there are no pictures of my wife having bruises after being in my presence. So your argument is just fucking stupid.

As it pertains if I would defend him if he were an a Eagle I say you are full of shit. Take the Jamies Winston incident for instance. It is my understand that one of the Eagles CB's (Darby) lied for him when his uber investigation was ongoing. I personally feel that given the fact that he lied he should face the same suspension as Winston...... I made that comment weeks ago.

All it takes is her to get bruises and say you did it.

Of course then in the fact of texts where she says she is setting you up, witnesses saying she got them in a fight with someone else, and every single person that looks into the case saying you didn't do it...some shit for brains battery thrower will probable still say "ya but dis here is my orpinion so he's a womun beater!"

 

[PhillyGreen]

All it takes is her to get bruises and say you did it.

Of course then in the fact of texts where she says she is setting you up, witnesses saying she got them in a fight with someone else, and every single person that looks into the case saying you didn't do it...some shit for brains battery thrower will probable still say "ya but dis here is my orpinion so he's a womun beater!"

Do some of you guys have a problem grasping the english language? Where did I ever defend this woman? I have said repeatedly that I think she instigated this and that she was a money hungry hoe. She is a liar and she has serious credibility problems. That does not mean that he did not hit her. I think the girl is fucking crazy and he should have avoided her like the plague and got a restraining order.

 

[Manster7588]

Do some of you guys have a problem grasping the english language? Where did I ever defend this woman? I have said repeatedly that I think she instigated this and that she was a money hungry hoe. She is a liar and she has serious credibility problems. That does not mean that he did not hit her. I think the girl is fucking crazy and he should have avoided her like the plague and got a restraining order.

Right there is why I say the NFL was wrong in it's suspension of Elliott. You and I don't know if he laid hands on her one way or another, but she has absolutely ZERO credibility and I for one won't believe a word she says.
Here's my issue with your take. You admit she lies, but you're ready to convict on her word.

 

[Across The Field]

Here is the thing. I don't beat my wife and there have been no complaints about me beating my wife and there are no pictures of my wife having bruises after being in my presence. So your argument is just fucking stupid.

As it pertains if I would defend him if he were an a Eagle I say you are full of shit. Take the Jamies Winston incident for instance. It is my understand that one of the Eagles CB's (Darby) lied for him when his uber investigation was ongoing. I personally feel that given the fact that he lied he should face the same suspension as Winston...... I made that comment weeks ago.

You're also not a multi-millionaire athlete with gold-digging skanks coming after your money and lifestyle, so no, my argument is pretty fucking spot on.

I agree, Darby should be suspended if it's proven that he lied during the investigation.

 

[Across The Field]

Do some of you guys have a problem grasping the english language? Where did I ever defend this woman? I have said repeatedly that I think she instigated this and that she was a money hungry hoe. She is a liar and she has serious credibility problems. That does not mean that he did not hit her. I think the girl is fucking crazy and he should have avoided her like the plague and got a restraining order.

Yet you feel that Zeke Elliott, a guy with absolutely no criminal record whatsoever or any other instances of hitting a woman, is guilty of assaulting her. Makes plenty of sense.

 

[fordman84]

Do some of you guys have a problem grasping the english language? Where did I ever defend this woman? I have said repeatedly that I think she instigated this and that she was a money hungry hoe. She is a liar and she has serious credibility problems. That does not mean that he did not hit her. I think the girl is fucking crazy and he should have avoided her like the plague and got a restraining order.

so you are playing both sides. You call her a liar that tells the truth.

 

[PhillyGreen]

Yet you feel that Zeke Elliott, a guy with absolutely no criminal record whatsoever or any other instances of hitting a woman, is guilty of assaulting her. Makes plenty of sense.

Ezekiel Elliott? The same guy to admitted to doing drugs while at Ohio State? Nah....that can't be the same guy. He is a fucking saint.

 

[PhillyGreen]

so you are playing both sides. You call her a liar that tells the truth.

Not playing both sides.....just stating that both sides did something wrong.

 

[Across The Field]

Ezekiel Elliott? The same guy to admitted to doing drugs while at Ohio State? Nah....that can't be the same guy. He is a fucking saint.

You ignorant, obtuse dipshit. Drinking and doing recreational drugs while in college doesn't equate to beating women. He was a party boy. Here's a secret - a shit ton of NFL players did that in college.

Your line of thinking is bullshit and ignorant to an exceptional degree.

 

[PhillyGreen]

You ignorant, obtuse dipshit. Drinking and doing recreational drugs while in college doesn't equate to beating women. He was a party boy. Here's a secret - a shit ton of NFL players did that in college.

Your line of thinking is bullshit and ignorant to an exceptional degree.

Oh so that makes it ok? Go fuck yourself homer.

 

[fordman84]

Not playing both sides.....just stating that both sides did something wrong.

There is proof she lied, no proof he hurt her.

But you think he abused her, not that she lied.