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Your unquestioned NFL MVP at the half way mark is...

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Did he win 10 or 11 that year?

I forget.
from 16-0 and a SB trip to 11-5 and no playoffs

cassels numbers were completely blown away by bradys prior year

he didnt even crack 4,000 yards
 

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He's certainly the favorite. Unquestioned is a bit much, though. Cam Newton has to be in the conversation as well.
 

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Pretty sure it's Joe Flacco. That boy is ELITE.
 

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He should be the only guy that does.

Most Valuable Player in the league, clearly, obviously, certainly.


Totally agree.....Probably why Carson Palmer should be very much in the conversation...That team was an offensive disaster without him last season
 

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from 16-0 and a SB trip to 11-5 and no playoffs

cassels numbers were completely blown away by bradys prior year

he didnt even crack 4,000 yards


Tom Brady returned the following season and won LESS games than the awful Matt Cassell

Plug and Play
 

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Totally agree.....Probably why Carson Palmer should be very much in the conversation...That team was an offensive disaster without him last season
Well.... Not e'ry game. (Lions got annihilated against a non-Palmer led Cards team.)
 

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Oh, he only went 11-5?
yup, after the team went 16-0 and trashed records

11-5

no playoffs

team went from 589 pts scored to 410

179 pt difference...or 11.12 ppg.

thats huge
 

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ytup, after the team went 16-0 and trashed records

11-5

no playoffs

team went from 589 pts scored to 410

179 pt difference...or 11.12 ppg.

thats huge


Think the point is that any QB can win big in the Belichick system
 

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The MVP is one of those awards where they have idiot writer's vote on it (dumbest guys in the room).

They should have a preliminary poll right now and anyone who doesn't vote for Brady should have his voting rights stripped away because right now there is absolutely no question that Brady has been the best player in the league so far this year.
 

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For fuck sake...

There is no "conversation." I hope you folks are trolling.
 

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Think the point is that any QB can win big in the Belichick system
win big?

from nearly 40 PPG on offense to under 26.

moss had 12 FEWER touchdowns. 12. fewer.

30 fewer catches

500 fewer yards receiving. he went from a 100 yard a game guy to barely 60.

youre not this dumb, i know you.
 

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For fuck sake...

There is no "conversation." I hope you folks are trolling.
trolling. you seem reasonable and rational.

kudos.
 

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win big?

from nearly 40 PPG on offense to under 26.

moss had 12 FEWER touchdowns. 12. fewer.

30 fewer catches

500 fewer yards receiving. he went from a 100 yard a game guy to barely 60.

youre not this dumb, i know you.



11 wins

Brady won less the year after Cassell

They were better off sticking with DoorMatt
 

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11 wins

Brady won less the year after Cassell

They were better off sticking with DoorMatt
mosses corpse in 2009
did you look at the QB numbers?

higher rating, more yards, more TD's, more everything than cassel the year prior.

again, youre not this dumb accidentally...
 

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11


Plug and Play offensive system

Jimmy Pizzeria Garrapalo would be an MVP candidate today on that team

garrollo is junk though he wins 14 games with Denver
 
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