Your 2017 hall of Fame class

[Nosferatu]

I'm just really happy to see Kenny Easley get in...

 

[bksballer89]

TO was basically kicked off of every team he ever played for. Can you be a HOFer if none of your teams even WANT you on the field?

If being a great teammate doesn't get you in the HOF then why does being a bad teammate keep you out? It doesn't make sense.

 

[calsnowskier]

If being a great teammate doesn't get you in the HOF then why does being a bad teammate keep you out? It doesn't make sense.

A HOFer in his prime does not get let go. He was causing more trouble ON THE TEAM than he was worth. Meaning he was affecting the teams chances of winning.

And remember...

 

[bksballer89]

A HOFer in his prime does not get let go. He was causing more trouble ON THE TEAM than he was worth. Meaning he was affecting the teams chances of winning.

And remember...

Not like he played in the superbowl on a broken foot or anything.....

 

[bksballer89]

Last time I checked HOF is all about numbers you put up in your career. But as @wildturkey said on another thread, it is ok to put Marvin Harrison in the HOF who probably killed someone in a shootout because he was such a great teammate on the field lol.

 

[calsnowskier]

Last time I checked HOF is all about numbers you put up in your career. But as @wildturkey said on another thread, it is ok to put Marvin Harrison in the HOF who probably killed someone in a shootout because he was such a great teammate on the field lol.

No one argues that he is one of the greatest wide receivers ever. But even after that game, he was kicked to the curb by the eagles.

 

[calsnowskier]

You ninja-edited me...

 

[calsnowskier]

No you didn't, LOL. I just quoted the wrong post...

 

[calsnowskier]

Last time I checked HOF is all about numbers you put up in your career. But as @wildturkey said on another thread, it is ok to put Marvin Harrison in the HOF who probably killed someone in a shootout because he was such a great teammate on the field lol.

Harrison was great on the field. He was a great teammate. His off-field issues did not effect his football career.

Owens sabotaged teams and the teams he played for could not wait to get rid of him.

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

Dawkins should have gotten in. He revolutionized the safety position, has fantastic numbers across the board, and was the leader of two different teams.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

Dawkins should have gotten in. He revolutionized the safety position, has fantastic numbers across the board, and was the leader of two different teams.

Agreed, one of the finest safeties that I've ever had the privilege of watching play. He also retired when he was still good.

 

[SDPaddlefish]

If being a great teammate doesn't get you in the HOF then why does being a bad teammate keep you out? It doesn't make sense.

A great teammate is a leader of the team, on and off the field. Ever heard of a leader in the lockerroom? They make their teammates better players. Should be a consideration for HOF beyond mere statistics. It's not the Hall of Statistics. This was Warner, even though he also had the stats. OTOH, there are players who are there to get good personal stats and are bad teammates who may actually hurt their teammates rather than make them better players. Sounds like TO was one of these players.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

Short careers got rewarded tonight. Admittedly, I never saw Easley play, but this does open up a lot. Davis was one of the best ever, but I just don't think either had the longevity.

This isn't a Sandy Koufax situation where they are far and away better than any player who played in that time.

I'm not offended that they made it and I'm happy for them, but I couldn't have done it.

Cue Seahawks and Broncos fans teeing off on me for being an idiot.

 

[Judge Fudge]

Short careers got rewarded tonight. Admittedly, I never saw Easley play, but this does open up a lot. Davis was one of the best ever, but I just don't think either had the longevity.

This isn't a Sandy Koufax situation where they are far and away better than any player who played in that time.

I'm not offended that they made it and I'm happy for them, but I couldn't have done it.

Cue Seahawks and Broncos fans teeing off on me for being an idiot.

Your a idoit.

Never did either. As i said in the seahawks board. Made my day. Was having a lousy day before that

 

[cdumler7]

Short careers got rewarded tonight. Admittedly, I never saw Easley play, but this does open up a lot. Davis was one of the best ever, but I just don't think either had the longevity.

This isn't a Sandy Koufax situation where they are far and away better than any player who played in that time.

I'm not offended that they made it and I'm happy for them, but I couldn't have done it.

Cue Seahawks and Broncos fans teeing off on me for being an idiot.

No argument from me on TD. He was a fringe player. There is a good reason he wasn't a 1st ballot HOF player and it took maybe one of the weaker HOF classes for him to get in. Next year is loaded again so if there was a year for him to get in before the Senior nomination it was this season. I would not have been shocked if he missed. Yes in my mind he is a HOF player as he in his short career could match numbers with even the best of the best. He didn't do it as long as many of them but man when he was healthy it was obvious he was the best RB in the NFL at the time.

I've also stated that his playoff stats alone are about as good as any playoff stats for any player. Still all that said I could understand why people would keep him out.

 

[DutchBird]

Agreed, one of the finest safeties that I've ever had the privilege of watching play. He also retired when he was still good.

Player (yrs) Tackles Sacks FF-FR INT

Brian Dawkins (16) 1131 26 37-16 37
Rodney Harrison (15) 1198 30.5 16-6 34
John Lynch (15) 1051 13 16-8 26
Troy Polamalu (12) 771 12 14-7 32
Ed Reed (13) 644 6 11-10 64

O yeah, Dawkins is the only player to have 25 FF, 25 INTs and 25 sacks. Clearly - as evident from the stats - he was an all-round player, just as dangerous in the box, blitzing as in coverage, where all the others were clearly more one dimensional.

Look at these stats, and it is clear that Dawkins ought to be the first of those to get in the HOF. I would not be surprised he will be the last.

And no offense, but Anderson getting in over a player like Dawkins (or TO) is questionable at best...

 

[SDPaddlefish]

Warner got in because he is on the NFL Network.

I'm afraid that 1 award just won't suffice for this post.

 

[cdumler7]

 

[VikingFan2k2]

Harrison was great on the field. He was a great teammate. His off-field issues did not effect his football career.

Owens sabotaged teams and the teams he played for could not wait to get rid of him.

Affect is the word there.

And you don't think Harrison choking out a ball boy or choking out a fan at the pro bowl would be a distraction these days? The media loved the quiet, unassuming guy being an elite receiver for Peyton Manning and ignored what a complete psycho he was. He was the Anti-Owens and Anti-Moss and funny enough, those are the two of the three that I wouldn't be afraid to be alone with in an alley.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

Player (yrs) Tackles Sacks FF-FR INT

Brian Dawkins (16) 1131 26 37-16 37
Rodney Harrison (15) 1198 30.5 16-6 34
John Lynch (15) 1051 13 16-8 26
Troy Polamalu (12) 771 12 14-7 32
Ed Reed (13) 644 6 11-10 64

O yeah, Dawkins is the only player to have 25 FF, 25 INTs and 25 sacks. Clearly - as evident from the stats - he was an all-round player, just as dangerous in the box, blitzing as in coverage, where all the others were clearly more one dimensional.

Look at these stats, and it is clear that Dawkins ought to be the first of those to get in the HOF. I would not be surprised he will be the last.

And no offense, but Anderson getting in over a player like Dawkins (or TO) is questionable at best...

No offense taken. Morten killed my dreams in 98' and only played for my team in 04'.

Gary Anderson was his counterpart who he outlasted.