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WTH is Happening In Stanford

jjc2009

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Maybe they think/know Shaw is going to take another job?
Dunno. I would have thought he’d have done it by now. He was certainly coveted.

Hope he hasn’t damaged his brand too much.
 

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@SUBuddha has gone over their admission standards. I don’t know if he’s around, but I’m sure if he is he’d be willing to break them down again. From what I remember of the whole thing, they don’t really budge much for athlete. Just factoring their athlete/extracurricular achievement into the formula might make it seem like they do. Relatively, anyway.

Yeah, I remember that. What I had taken from it is that the academic standards are lower, but still much tougher than any other school they are competing against.

What you said about factoring in extracurriculars might be the difference he mentioned.
 

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This would help your argument if not for the fact that Stanford is regularly bringing in top 15-20 nationally ranked recruiting classes. Clearly these super-stringent guidelines aren't holding them back that much.
I question how “frequent” those 15-20 classes are. Also 15-20 seems to be their ceiling.
 

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This is the big reason Markeese Stepp is at USC instead of ND. He wanted to go to ND and ND wanted him, but he had academic issues that soured the recruitment of him.

I like that kid too. Glad we don't expect our players to be smart. lol
 

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Stanford's recruiting disadvantage is also its advantage. No school has beaten UW out of as many recruits as has Stanford seeing how a Stanford degree is worth a fvckload of money and those kids know it. Usually when Stanford and UW go head to head on a recruit Stanford wins.

Plus, who wants to go to a shithole like Seattle?
 

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The Pac12 is really hurting. Stanford down, USC down, UCLA down, Washington took a step back and also lost their coach, Even Utah is often up and down, etc. The good news is that Oregon is looking like they may turn things around after a rough 3-4 season run.

The Pac12 need a strong Stanford, and this doesn’t look good for them next season.

PAC12 was just fine with Stanford being irrelevant for much of the 2000s. You have a much stronger argument with USC.
 

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I think that's optimistic. My guess would be 8-4. At Washington, Minnesota, and Ohio State with Penn State and Wisconsin at home. I wouldn't even be surprised if Indiana was able to take one from them.

They've typically won their home games under Harbaugh (except against OSU) so I'm more optimistic they'll beat Wisconsin, PSU might be even better next year, so that's probably a loss but even then I'm probably 55/45 as of now. I think UW will be a loss more than likely and then OSU. I think they win at Minnesota and East Lansing.
 

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I question how “frequent” those 15-20 classes are. Also 15-20 seems to be their ceiling.
The only years this decade that this hasn't been the case were 2018 and 2013 when they only had 15 and 13 spots open. Otherwise, their average class is top 20, with a high of 7th in 2012.
 

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The odds of Oregon and Stanford going head to head after a recruit are slim to none seeing how Oregon will take anyone with a heartbeat.

Rankings: UW is No. 14 in the world, third among U.S. public universities, plus on Money and Washington Monthly best-of lists

Maybe Washington University in St. Louis...but UW in Seattle isn't a top14 school in the country, let alone in the world.

FWIW, UW is rated #62 for US universities.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
 

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This would help your argument if not for the fact that Stanford is regularly bringing in top 15-20 nationally ranked recruiting classes. Clearly these super-stringent guidelines aren't holding them back that much.

lol

As jjc pointed out...15-20 is likely their ceiling. Just like recruiting with almost any program, things are going to go better some years than others.

Also, a down year in recruiting for a school that lands top 10 recruiting classes is dropping into the 15-20 range. A bad year for Stanford puts them in the 30's, 40's or lower.

Get back to me when they start landing top 10 recruiting classes regularly.
 

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They've typically won their home games under Harbaugh (except against OSU) so I'm more optimistic they'll beat Wisconsin, PSU might be even better next year, so that's probably a loss but even then I'm probably 55/45 as of now. I think UW will be a loss more than likely and then OSU. I think they win at Minnesota and East Lansing.
True, but with the talent they're losing, those previous years go out the window. I see 2020 as being very 2017-ish for them. No true top candidate at QB, extremely minimal experience at the skill positions. Not sure I buy them beating Wisconsin, and Minnesota is on the rise. They might be one of them, but overall I think 4 losses seems very realistic. Depends on who goes pro, really.
 

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The only years this decade that this hasn't been the case were 2018 and 2013 when they only had 15 and 13 spots open. Otherwise, their average class is top 20, with a high of 7th in 2012.

Outside of 2012 they’ve been between 18-20 except for a few years in the 50’s and 60’s.

Like I said, that’s their ceiling.
 

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I like that kid too. Glad we don't expect our players to be smart. lol
Should have used him more. He brutalized us this year. Not looking forward to facing him next year.
 

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PAC12 was just fine with Stanford being irrelevant for much of the 2000s. You have a much stronger argument with USC.

I was lumping their fall in with allthe other teams. I thought that was clear in my post? Of course they don’t need Stanford. I don’t think I said they did.
 

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Never trust Michigan (hairball) to beat a team they should soundly whoop. Michigan should win, so im going with washington
Michigan usually wins the games they are supposed to win. If it’s a game they should lose, mark it an L before the game starts.
 

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I'm sorry but the link I posted was in regard to academics, not cost of living and the nearest Burger King from campus.

UW honored as one of top universities in the world

The consultancy calculates its rankings based on a university’s external recognition. The components of the ranking include: total number of alumni and faculty winning major awards; number of highly cited researchers employed; and the number of papers published and cited.


None of that has anything to do with taking undergraduate classes at UW.
 

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The consultancy calculates its rankings based on a university’s external recognition. The components of the ranking include: total number of alumni and faculty winning major awards; number of highly cited researchers employed; and the number of papers published and cited.


None of that has anything to do with taking undergraduate classes at UW.
ARWU World University Rankings 2019 | Academic Ranking of World Universities 2019 | Top 1000 universities | Shanghai Ranking - 2019 <--- where does Oregon rank on that list. gtfo with your usual stupid ass bs.
 
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