Would You Sign Nnamdi if Eagles Cut Him

[CrashDavisSports]

I think you can cut bait a little with some money, Nnamdi is not getting as much as he once did when signign with Philly. He either takes less with Philly or he gets released. Once released, he will make more than Philly was offering, but no where near what he once commanded thanks to his last two years.

Saving money on Newman, Allen, Crocker, Mays, Maualuga etc.

If you have good coverage CB's and a really good DL putting pressure on the QB, the LB's will not have to be great, just solid to have a top 5 defense this upcoming year.

Nnamdi, Hall, Pacman and Kirkpatrick, along with Nelson and say a decent FA safety to pair with Nelson, and we would have the best secondary in the NFL, and with our DL, it would no doubt rank out as the best in the league when the stats were finally done being calculated at the end of the day.

Everyone hates Dalton, what he can do, his limitations....if you want to get past round one of the playoffs, you put a staggering defense together so Dalton doesn't have to do as much to win a game.

I would support this option, if he is not getting more than $8 million a season for 3 to 4 years, and we are cutting bait with a few guys no longer needed as I mentioned above.

I would move Burfict to MLB, resign Howard as our WILL, and then try to find a pretty dang good SAM in FA or the draft in round 1 or 2.

Resign Michael Johson (5 years), Dunlap (3 years), Adam Jones (2 years).

Extend Atkins for 8 years for $100 million.

Our defense would be set for a very long time.

Add in a guy like Lattimore in the draft, give him a full year to recover, get a decent #2 WR option in FA and let Sanu, Jones, Hawkins grow into their roles.

We can spend some money this year without breaking the bank except on Johnson and Atkins. We should have enough wiggle room the following year to start talking extensions with at least Green, and if Dalton improves, maybe one for him, since you know Gruden and Mike would want to keep him anyways.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I think you can cut bait a little with some money, Nnamdi is not getting as much as he once did when signign with Philly. He either takes less with Philly or he gets released. Once released, he will make more than Philly was offering, but no where near what he once commanded thanks to his last two years.

Saving money on Newman, Allen, Crocker, Mays, Maualuga etc.

If you have good coverage CB's and a really good DL putting pressure on the QB, the LB's will not have to be great, just solid to have a top 5 defense this upcoming year.

Nnamdi, Hall, Pacman and Kirkpatrick, along with Nelson and say a decent FA safety to pair with Nelson, and we would have the best secondary in the NFL, and with our DL, it would no doubt rank out as the best in the league when the stats were finally done being calculated at the end of the day.

Everyone hates Dalton, what he can do, his limitations....if you want to get past round one of the playoffs, you put a staggering defense together so Dalton doesn't have to do as much to win a game.

I would support this option, if he is not getting more than $8 million a season for 3 to 4 years, and we are cutting bait with a few guys no longer needed as I mentioned above.

I would move Burfict to MLB, resign Howard as our WILL, and then try to find a pretty dang good SAM in FA or the draft in round 1 or 2.

Resign Michael Johson (5 years), Dunlap (3 years), Adam Jones (2 years).

Extend Atkins for 8 years for $100 million.

Our defense would be set for a very long time.

Add in a guy like Lattimore in the draft, give him a full year to recover, get a decent #2 WR option in FA and let Sanu, Jones, Hawkins grow into their roles.

We can spend some money this year without breaking the bank except on Johnson and Atkins. We should have enough wiggle room the following year to start talking extensions with at least Green, and if Dalton improves, maybe one for him, since you know Gruden and Mike would want to keep him anyways.

I'm not overly worried about our SAM linebacker. He plays on less that 50% of our snaps. I think the SAM backer is the least important player on out D by far.

 

[cincygrad]

I'm not overly worried about our SAM linebacker. He plays on less that 50% of our snaps. I think the SAM backer is the least important player on out D by far.

Agreed. Evidence for this comes from years ago when Rey was our SAM. He wasn't near the liability on the field as he is now.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

True enough, but having a good solid SAM say in the draft like an Ogletree or what not couldn't hurt us too badly.

Build that defense, draft a Lattimore in say round 2b or 3 if available, give him a year to recover completely, and I think we would be in damn good shape if a decent #2 WR is out there on the market who is not going to command more than $4 million a year.

Our quickest route to making it to round 2, and maintaining the longevity of us winning on a regular basis.

Dalton, Green and Lattimore would ensure the offense would be good enough to put up at least as many points as our defense would give up, if not more than. I think we could quickly become an AFC powerhouse within 2 years.

 

[Tubbs1518]

True enough, but having a good solid SAM say in the draft like an Ogletree or what not couldn't hurt us too badly.

Build that defense, draft a Lattimore in say round 2b or 3 if available, give him a year to recover completely, and I think we would be in damn good shape if a decent #2 WR is out there on the market who is not going to command more than $4 million a year.

Our quickest route to making it to round 2, and maintaining the longevity of us winning on a regular basis.

Dalton, Green and Lattimore would ensure the offense would be good enough to put up at least as many points as our defense would give up, if not more than. I think we could quickly become an AFC powerhouse within 2 years.

Ogletree is a MLB or a WILL all day long. No way he is a SAM.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Ogletree is a MLB or a WILL all day long. No way he is a SAM.

I don't know why I keep saying Ogletree. I meant Arthur Brown.

However, if T'eo happens to fall, I would take him and put Burfict at WILL and Howard at SAM. Or flip flop Howard and Burfict. Doesn't matter too much I suppose. Whoever looks like they can do it best.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Burfict can't cover well enough to be full time will.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Burfict can't cover well enough to be full time will.

WILL is not the coverage LB, it is the rush LB.

The SAM covers the TE typically, or the RB.

Besides, as you said, SAM is not that important anyways, so does it really matter too much who is playing SAM if they are a decent overall LB? Probably going to be the safety in our system covering.

 

[cincygrad]

I thought Burfict played well at OLB last season..... Have yet to see him at MLB, so I can't really comment on his potential there. I remember a lot of folks around here thinking Rey was going to light the world on fire once he moved to his 'natural' position. Didn't happen.

Unless we pick up a great prospect at MLB, I'm in favor of giving Burfict the chance -- But we need to have a back-up plan if it fails.

 

[Tubbs1518]

WILL is not the coverage LB, it is the rush LB.

The SAM covers the TE typically, or the RB.

Besides, as you said, SAM is not that important anyways, so does it really matter too much who is playing SAM if they are a decent overall LB? Probably going to be the safety in our system covering.

Not true. Howard played the WILL and played a lot in coverage. It's the reason he is in on nickle downs. Lawson played the SAM and played in run support and blitzed. They took him out in the nickle because he isn't a coverage player. The WILL covers RBs, TEs, etc.

 

[cincygrad]

Not true. Howard played the WILL and played a lot in coverage. It's the reason he is in on nickle downs. Lawson played the SAM and played in run support and blitzed. They took him out in the nickle because he isn't a coverage player. The WILL covers RBs, TEs, etc.

Not sure where you get this.... Manny Lawson came into the league as a pass rusher, but has been much better known for his 'coverage' skills as a LB than anything else.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Not true. Howard played the WILL and played a lot in coverage. It's the reason he is in on nickle downs. Lawson played the SAM and played in run support and blitzed. They took him out in the nickle because he isn't a coverage player. The WILL covers RBs, TEs, etc.

WILL = weak side linebacker, which means side opposite TE.

SAM = Strong side linebacker, which means same side as TE, so coverage LB.

Get your fucking positions down, because as of right now yu do not know left from right.

 

[DanBengalfan]

Linebacker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

some of you guys had me so confused i had to read something.

damn it.

 

[kramer1]

Anyone who uses the terms SAM and WIL is an idiot as far as I'm concerned.

 

[kramer1]

...or MIKE

Makes me wanna fucking puke.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Mike Zimmer must make you mad then!!

 

[Tubbs1518]

The weakside linebacker (WLB), or the "Will", must be the fastest of the three, because he is often the one called into pass coverage. He is also usually chasing the play from the backside, so the ability to maneuver through traffic is a necessity for the Will. The Will usually aligns off the line of scrimmage at the same depth as Mike. Because of his position on the weakside, the Will does not often have to face large interior linemen one on one unless one is pulling. In coverage, the Will often covers the back that attacks his side of the field first in man coverage, while covering the weak flat or hook/curl areas in zone coverage. The weakside linebacker is also known as the right outside linebacker (ROLB).

The strongside linebacker (SLB) is often nicknamed "Sam" for purposes of calling a blitz. Since the strong side of the offensive team is the side on which the tight end lines up, or whichever side contains the most personnel, the strongside linebacker usually lines up across from the tight end. Often the strongside linebacker will be called upon to tackle the running back on a play, because the back will be following the tight end's block. He is most often the strongest linebacker; at the least he possesses the ability to withstand, shed, and fight off blocks from a tight end or fullback blocking the backside of a pass play. The linebacker should also have strong safety abilities in pass situation to cover the tight end in man on man situations. He should also have considerable quickness to read and get into coverage in zone situations. The strongside linebacker is also commonly known as the left outside linebacker (LOLB).

So technically we are both right. The SAM is more likely to cover the TE but the WILL is supposed to be the fast guy who can get all over the field. Burfict fits the MLB or the SAM LB mold much better than the WILL. He doesn't need to play there.

How about you calm down sparky and not jump straight to being a dick? Starting to sound like flaming on here.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

The weakside linebacker (WLB), or the "Will", must be the fastest of the three, because he is often the one called into pass coverage. He is also usually chasing the play from the backside, so the ability to maneuver through traffic is a necessity for the Will. The Will usually aligns off the line of scrimmage at the same depth as Mike. Because of his position on the weakside, the Will does not often have to face large interior linemen one on one unless one is pulling. In coverage, the Will often covers the back that attacks his side of the field first in man coverage, while covering the weak flat or hook/curl areas in zone coverage. The weakside linebacker is also known as the right outside linebacker (ROLB).

The strongside linebacker (SLB) is often nicknamed "Sam" for purposes of calling a blitz. Since the strong side of the offensive team is the side on which the tight end lines up, or whichever side contains the most personnel, the strongside linebacker usually lines up across from the tight end. Often the strongside linebacker will be called upon to tackle the running back on a play, because the back will be following the tight end's block. He is most often the strongest linebacker; at the least he possesses the ability to withstand, shed, and fight off blocks from a tight end or fullback blocking the backside of a pass play. The linebacker should also have strong safety abilities in pass situation to cover the tight end in man on man situations. He should also have considerable quickness to read and get into coverage in zone situations. The strongside linebacker is also commonly known as the left outside linebacker (LOLB).

So technically we are both right. The SAM is more likely to cover the TE but the WILL is supposed to be the fast guy who can get all over the field. Burfict fits the MLB or the SAM LB mold much better than the WILL. He doesn't need to play there.

How about you calm down sparky and not jump straight to being a dick? Starting to sound like flaming on here.

You're right. I didn't realize what I had even said until today. I had a bad day yesterday, and had an entire bottle of rum to drink in about 2 hours. I was blitzed off my f'n face. So I apologize for my rude comments.

 

[Tubbs1518]

You're right. I didn't realize what I had even said until today. I had a bad day yesterday, and had an entire bottle of rum to drink in about 2 hours. I was blitzed off my f'n face. So I apologize for my rude comments.

LOL its fine man, we've all been there.

 

[flamingrey]

How about you calm down sparky and not jump straight to being a dick? Starting to sound like flaming on here.

I'm probably the nicest guy on this board.