Why Oregon fans will never get it

[WhiteMamba]

Imagine how much money you guys could have saved Uncle Phil if you just drove a rusty nail into a wall somewhere and told recruits: "You see that rusty nail? Dan Fouts hung his helmet from that nail"!!

 

[yeodonie]

Well, good thing you're not a great athlete. Because it would be absurd to pick a school based on their athletic facilities.

Yeah they should instead select on rusty nails

 

[WhiteMamba]

They've recruiting decently in the past few classes because they've had some on field success, not because they've built a new building.

 

[trojanfan12]

They've recruiting decently in the past few classes because they've had some on field success, not because they've built a new building. When the success goes away, the recruits stop coming.

Look, no one, not even Duck fans are suggesting that because Oregon built these facilities that every 4 and 5 star player in the country is suddenly going to want to be a Duck!!

A kid that has always wanted to be a Trojan or a Wolverine or a 'Bammer or whatever else, is going to go to those schools and nothing's going to change that!!

But those facilities can make a big difference to a kid who is undecided on where he wants to go!! If Oregon can use their facilities to snag a couple of those in each recruiting class, then they won't have to worry so much about the success "going away"!!

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Imagine how much money you guys could have saved Uncle Phil if you just drove a rusty nail into a wall somewhere and told recruits: "You see that rusty nail? Dan Fouts hung his helmet from that nail"!!

Took a Trojan fan to "kick out" the greatest QB's name to every to yank up the green-n-yellow jockstrap at the "O".

 

[mrwallace2ku]

he $70 million McKay Center which is every bit as state of the art as what the Ducks have!!

I believe the Ducks lift "solid gold" barbells (100 billion) at their new facilty.. Something about "Win the PURE Game"...marketing these days, you know.

 

[trojanfan12]

I believe the Ducks lift "solid gold" barbells (100 billion) at their new facilty.. Something about "Win the PURE Game"...marketing these days, you know.

Wait'll they find out those are "gold plated" barbells!!

 

[ktg8trgrl]

I love all this attention, shows how jealous they are and how scared they are when their precious local 5 star talent takes a trip out West to Eugene and see's that Eugene, OR is the mecca of college football now.

yes because Oregon wins so many Natty's on a platter YOU FACE!

 

[trojanfan12]

yes because Oregon wins so many Natty's on a platter YOU FACE!

Sorry Ducks, but that's just never going to stop being funny!!

 

[WhiteMamba]

Royce! Thomas! Choice is yourn youngens....

 

[trojanfan12]

All kidding aside, here is my assessment of Oregon football!! I think most Oregon fans would agree with this!! If not, I'm sure we'll all hear about it!!

For the vast majority of their existence, Oregon was a doormat. A .500 season was considered successful for them!! Somewhere along the way, someone at the school with the power to influence, decided that they didn't want Oregon to be a doormat anymore!!

They looked around and realized that they didn't have the "natural resources" to draw recruits like the "blue bloods" such as USC, Michigan, Alabama, etc. could draw!! They can't show them a bunch of NC trophies and Heisman's. At this point, they could have just given up on the idea and remained a doormat!!

Instead, they decided to look at what they could do!! One thing that they could do, that the blue bloods couldn't, was take a flyer on young, inexperienced coaches that had a unique style of play that would be fun to watch and to play. They knew that if they brought in coaches like that and it failed, their fans weren't going to go ballistic.

So they brought those coaches in, got the 2 and 3 star recruits that they could get and coached them up. Along the way, the developed their own unique "coaching tree" in which the current coach built upon the style of the coach that preceded him.

The other thing they had going for them was a rich Uncle Phil who was willing to make sure they had the most modern looking uniforms and was willing to foot the bill for hundreds of millions of dollars in facility upgrades and of course, the new facility that seems to have so many panties in a twist!!

Personally, I see nothing wrong with a program using the resources that they have to put themselves on an even playing field. Also, as a fan of a "blue blood" program, I think it's hilarious that so many other fans of "blue blood" programs are so invested in telling the Ducks what they CAN'T do and how certain they are that the current success won't last!!

 

[Olyduck]

All kidding aside, here is my assessment of Oregon football!! I think most Oregon fans would agree with this!! If not, I'm sure we'll all hear about it!!

For the vast majority of their existence, Oregon was a doormat. A .500 season was considered successful for them!! Somewhere along the way, someone at the school with the power to influence, decided that they didn't want Oregon to be a doormat anymore!!

They looked around and realized that they didn't have the "natural resources" to draw recruits like the "blue bloods" such as USC, Michigan, Alabama, etc. could draw!! They can't show them a bunch of NC trophies and Heisman's. At this point, they could have just given up on the idea and remained a doormat!!

Instead, they decided to look at what they could do!! One thing that they could do, that the blue bloods couldn't, was take a flyer on young, inexperienced coaches that had a unique style of play that would be fun to watch and to play. They knew that if they brought in coaches like that and it failed, their fans weren't going to go ballistic.

So they brought those coaches in, got the 2 and 3 star recruits that they could get and coached them up. Along the way, the developed their own unique "coaching tree" in which the current coach built upon the style of the coach that preceded him.

The other thing they had going for them was a rich Uncle Phil who was willing to make sure they had the most modern looking uniforms and was willing to foot the bill for hundreds of millions of dollars in facility upgrades and of course, the new facility that seems to have so many panties in a twist!!

Personally, I see nothing wrong with a program using the resources that they have to put themselves on an even playing field. Also, as a fan of a "blue blood" program, I think it's hilarious that so many other fans of "blue blood" programs are so invested in telling the Ducks what they CAN'T do and how certain they are that the current success won't last!!

Pretty close.
For the vast majority of their existence, Oregon was a doormat. A .500 season was considered successful for them!!
Then Rich Brooks came in and after a few more years of losing and fighting for .500 started getting oregon a little better in the late 80s and early 90s. then in 1994 won the conference and went to the Rose Bowl. Following this Pac 10 title and New years day bowl Oregon contended for the pac 10 in 95 but ended up in the Cotton bowl. Phil Knight was a booster but not even close to the level he is now. At this time he really didnt have a lot of power and influence yet.
Rich Brooks went to the NFL and Bellotti the OC took over for that above mentioned 95 cotton bowl season. Bellotti had all of 1 losing season in his time as coach. Bellotti went to the JR colleges and got a number of players like Akili Smith and Maurice Morris. Oregon got up to #2 in the country and contended for a spot in the NC under Bellotti. Oregon played with the offense a number of times under Bellotti who went through OC after OC who went on to be head coaches themselves. Dirk Koetter, Jeff Tedford Chip Kelly as well as former and now again head coach Gary Crowton. Crowton helped Oregon to open up the offense. Bellotti brought in Kelly on the advice of Crowton when he left for LSU.

 

[Olyduck]

They've recruiting decently in the past few classes because they've had some on field success, not because they've built a new building. When the success goes away, the recruits stop coming.

Past few? how many do you consider past few? Oregon has had pretty solid recruiting classes for a while.

 

[ktg8trgrl]

Past few? how many do you consider past few? Oregon has had pretty solid recruiting classes for a while.

what are you calling solid recruiting classes? anything in the top 20?.. because Oregon's recruiting classes have been quite lackluster in the last 7 years .. the highest ranked class you had was 9th in 2011 the worst class was 32nd in 09.. last year it was 16 and even this year its ranked at 22..

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

The big turn for the program was the 1989 Indepenence Bowl win. It had been 25 years or so since a bowl game. It slowly began to build from that victory. Fans and Alumni loved that small taste. Then what Oly said above.

 

[Olyduck]

what are you calling solid recruiting classes? anything in the top 20?.. because Oregon's recruiting classes have been quite lackluster in the last 7 years .. the highest ranked class you had was 9th in 2011 the worst class was 32nd in 09.. last year it was 16 and even this year its ranked at 22..

if the rankings for the AP, Coaches, BCS are top 25 why wouldnt the same be true for recruiting rankings?

and those depend on who you ask. this years class was 22 by rivals but 17 by scout. and yes I would consider either solid.

 

[BamaTee1]

what are you calling solid recruiting classes? anything in the top 20?.. because Oregon's recruiting classes have been quite lackluster in the last 7 years .. the highest ranked class you had was 9th in 2011 the worst class was 32nd in 09.. last year it was 16 and even this year its ranked at 22..

Not thinking they get it outside the south!

 

[Olyduck]

also look at what those "lackluster" classes have done. Oregon has finished ranked 2, 4, 3, 11, 9 and 23 and has this year starting at #3.
Fiesta Bowl, Rose Bowl wins Played for NC and another Rose. Holiday and Sun wins as well.
a couple Heisman finalists, All Americans, Doak Walker award winner.
yeah Im ok with these "lackluster" classes.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Not thinking they get it outside the south!

Having a single digit recruiting class and finish ranked in double digits like UGA, Texas, OU, Ole Miss is not our way of fun. We would rather finish the year in single digits. But let's face it the recruiting rags are not the most accurate predictors. Oregon has several players in the NFL that were not 5 star ranked high school players.

 

[LawDawg]

Well, good thing you're not a great athlete. Because it would be absurd to pick a school based on their athletic facilities.

So they will pick a school because of a rusty nail and some old coot from 80 years ago, but not because of new, hi-tech facilities. You really aren't very knowledgeable about today's college football. Seriously.