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Commanders interviewed former Ravens OC Greg Roman for their offensive coordinator vacancy.​

This was rumored to have been in the works yesterday, it officially happened today. Roman has received surprisingly little interest this offseason, garnering just the one interview in the NFL. It's possible he could look to join a college staff if the Commanders look elsewhere. The Commanders have cast a fairly wide net in their offensive coordinator search, but this would be sort of an odd fit given the whispers about how much wideouts dislike Roman's offense. Washington has a stacked wideout corps that would, on paper, look to be something a coordinator would prioritize using.
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I don't like the part that he doesn't use his WR's. That's our strength.
 

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Commanders interviewed former Ravens OC Greg Roman for their offensive coordinator vacancy.​

This was rumored to have been in the works yesterday, it officially happened today. Roman has received surprisingly little interest this offseason, garnering just the one interview in the NFL. It's possible he could look to join a college staff if the Commanders look elsewhere. The Commanders have cast a fairly wide net in their offensive coordinator search, but this would be sort of an odd fit given the whispers about how much wideouts dislike Roman's offense. Washington has a stacked wideout corps that would, on paper, look to be something a coordinator would prioritize using.
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I don't like the part that he doesn't use his WR's. That's our strength.
I don't understand why they have interest in him with the WRs we have.

I mean McLaurin has a LTD and Dotson is on a rookie contract so neither one is going anywhere but McLaurin was not happy with his touches under Wentz and wasn't exactly quiet about it.

What do I know?
 

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I don't understand why they have interest in him with the WRs we have.

I mean McLaurin has a LTD and Dotson is on a rookie contract so neither one is going anywhere but McLaurin was not happy with his touches under Wentz and wasn't exactly quiet about it.

What do I know?

you are right. Hopefully we get EB
 

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you are right. Hopefully we get EB
I'm not high on any of them to be honest. At least with Bieniemy there is a little intrigue and you are possibly getting a dumbed down version of Andy's offense.
 

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Trent Green , Gus Ferrote Nate Sudfield
Now I do think we drafted and developed a young signal caller In one Mark Rypien who qb’ D a Super Bowl win with the best analytiCal team of all time

i would also add we drafted and developed one KC who has had a top 30 Statistically qb career

Stan humphries was another qb we Drafted and developed and he qb‘d a chargers team to a superbowl
This should prove to be an interesting conversation so let me ask both of you this... I understand the drafted part but what criteria did you use when listing these guys as "developed to be a long-term answer at the position?"

Mark Rypien had the one-year benefit of a superior offensive line and was gone soon after that one year. In fact, following that one-hit wonderful season, they signed him to a 3-year, $9 million deal entering the 1992 season. However, the team battled age and injuries and finished the regular season with a 9–7 record, barely making the playoffs. His passing yardage was a respectable 3,282 yards, but his passer rating fell from 97.9 in 1991 to 71.7 in 1992 and his interceptions outnumbered his touchdowns 17–13. Two seasons into that contract he signed as a free agent with Cleveland and was well on the road to being a journeyman playing for 8 teams including the Rochester Raiders of the Great Lakes Indoor Football League.

Kirk Cousins is arguably the best QB they've had since Griffin's 2012 season and wasn't the long-term answer. Attach varying reasons here>>>___________ ___________ _________! However, I'm still having trouble with the criteria you guys are using to determine "development." which IMO offers some indication of growth. In his final season here Cousins finished the season completing 64.3% of his passes, was 347-of-540 for 4,093 yards, 27 touchdowns, and 13 interceptions. has he progressed (developed) or is he the exact same guy that he's always been? You tell me!!
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Stan Humphries wasn't developed by Washington, his time here was mostly as a backup to Rypien. Drafted in 1988, he appeared in 9 games total, starting in five (5) before being traded to the Chargers in 1992 ... the team that actually developed him as their long-term answer.

Trent Green wasn't drafted by Washington, that honor goes to the Chargers who grabbed him in the 1993 draft. He signed with Washington in 1994 after being cut by a Canadian football team and saw zero NFL action beyond one pass thrown in 1997, and he would not see any NFL action until 1998 when he threw for 3,441 yards, 23 touchdowns, and 11 interceptions. The next year he was signed by the Rams.

Gus Ferrotte, drafted in 1994 along with first-rounder Heath Shuler, Ferrotte gained starter duties because of injuries to Shuler. He became a full-time starter in 1995 and 1996 and if there was any effort to develop him it certainly wasn't very effective.

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Finally, there's the beloved (by one here ) Nate Sudfield... Drafted in 2016, Sudfeld did not see any playing time his rookie year, as he was inactive for all 16 games as the team's third-string quarterback behind starter Cousins and primary backup Colt McCoy. On September 2, 2017, Sudfeld was waived by Washington.
 

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This should prove to be an interesting conversation so let me ask both of you this... I understand the drafted part but what criteria did you use when listing these guys as "developed to be a long-term answer at the position?"

Mark Rypien had the one-year benefit of a superior offensive line and was gone soon after that one year. In fact, following that one-hit wonderful season, they signed him to a 3-year, $9 million deal entering the 1992 season. However, the team battled age and injuries and finished the regular season with a 9–7 record, barely making the playoffs. His passing yardage was a respectable 3,282 yards, but his passer rating fell from 97.9 in 1991 to 71.7 in 1992 and his interceptions outnumbered his touchdowns 17–13. Two seasons into that contract he signed as a free agent with Cleveland and was well on the road to being a journeyman playing for 8 teams including the Rochester Raiders of the Great Lakes Indoor Football League.

Kirk Cousins is arguably the best QB they've had since Griffin's 2012 season and wasn't the long-term answer. Attach varying reasons here>>>___________ ___________ _________! However, I'm still having trouble with the criteria you guys are using to determine "development." which IMO offers some indication of growth. In his final season here Cousins finished the season completing 64.3% of his passes, was 347-of-540 for 4,093 yards, 27 touchdowns, and 13 interceptions. has he progressed (developed) or is he the exact same guy that he's always been? You tell me!!
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Stan Humphries wasn't developed by Washington, his time here was mostly as a backup to Rypien. Drafted in 1988, he appeared in 9 games total, starting in five (5) before being traded to the Chargers in 1992 ... the team that actually developed him as their long-term answer.

Trent Green wasn't drafted by Washington, that honor goes to the Chargers who grabbed him in the 1993 draft. He signed with Washington in 1994 after being cut by a Canadian football team and saw zero NFL action beyond one pass thrown in 1997, and he would not see any NFL action until 1998 when he threw for 3,441 yards, 23 touchdowns, and 11 interceptions. The next year he was signed by the Rams.

Gus Ferrotte, drafted in 1994 along with first-rounder Heath Shuler, Ferrotte gained starter duties because of injuries to Shuler. He became a full-time starter in 1995 and 1996 and if there was any effort to develop him it certainly wasn't very effective.

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Finally, there's the beloved (by one here ) Nate Sudfield... Drafted in 2016, Sudfeld did not see any playing time his rookie year, as he was inactive for all 16 games as the team's third-string quarterback behind starter Cousins and primary backup Colt McCoy. On September 2, 2017, Sudfeld was waived by Washington.
Good post sty !
 

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This should prove to be an interesting conversation so let me ask both of you this... I understand the drafted part but what criteria did you use when listing these guys as "developed to be a long-term answer at the position?"

Mark Rypien had the one-year benefit of a superior offensive line and was gone soon after that one year. In fact, following that one-hit wonderful season, they signed him to a 3-year, $9 million deal entering the 1992 season. However, the team battled age and injuries and finished the regular season with a 9–7 record, barely making the playoffs. His passing yardage was a respectable 3,282 yards, but his passer rating fell from 97.9 in 1991 to 71.7 in 1992 and his interceptions outnumbered his touchdowns 17–13. Two seasons into that contract he signed as a free agent with Cleveland and was well on the road to being a journeyman playing for 8 teams including the Rochester Raiders of the Great Lakes Indoor Football League.

Kirk Cousins is arguably the best QB they've had since Griffin's 2012 season and wasn't the long-term answer. Attach varying reasons here>>>___________ ___________ _________! However, I'm still having trouble with the criteria you guys are using to determine "development." which IMO offers some indication of growth. In his final season here Cousins finished the season completing 64.3% of his passes, was 347-of-540 for 4,093 yards, 27 touchdowns, and 13 interceptions. has he progressed (developed) or is he the exact same guy that he's always been? You tell me!!
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Stan Humphries wasn't developed by Washington, his time here was mostly as a backup to Rypien. Drafted in 1988, he appeared in 9 games total, starting in five (5) before being traded to the Chargers in 1992 ... the team that actually developed him as their long-term answer.

Trent Green wasn't drafted by Washington, that honor goes to the Chargers who grabbed him in the 1993 draft. He signed with Washington in 1994 after being cut by a Canadian football team and saw zero NFL action beyond one pass thrown in 1997, and he would not see any NFL action until 1998 when he threw for 3,441 yards, 23 touchdowns, and 11 interceptions. The next year he was signed by the Rams.

Gus Ferrotte, drafted in 1994 along with first-rounder Heath Shuler, Ferrotte gained starter duties because of injuries to Shuler. He became a full-time starter in 1995 and 1996 and if there was any effort to develop him it certainly wasn't very effective.

View attachment 321351

Finally, there's the beloved (by one here ) Nate Sudfield... Drafted in 2016, Sudfeld did not see any playing time his rookie year, as he was inactive for all 16 games as the team's third-string quarterback behind starter Cousins and primary backup Colt McCoy. On September 2, 2017, Sudfeld was waived by Washington.
gotta agree. We are shit at developing QBs. So what is the secret? Is it eventually to suck enough to have a legit chance at a big fish. Or is it that there are actually very few QB gurus that can do it So most teams suck at developing one?
 

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There aren't 32 great QB coaches.
 

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There aren't 32 great QB coaches.
nope. And free agency kinda fucked the idea of developing a qb. but it made millions for those that came developed or developed themselves.
 

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If manders get E.B this changes Free Agencie
 

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The NFL has found itself at a crossroads between an ever-shrinking number of traditional QBs coming into their league and an expanding number of QBs that can hurt opposing defenses in multiple ways. I agree that Howell could be the answer here in D.C.
I am intrigued by Fields but his accuracy is in question. Could he work on that? I guess that depends on why he has continued issues in this area at this point of his career.
 

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Will need a bonafide TE
ND TE Mayer possibly at 16 anyone? 138 receptions, 16TD's his last 2 seasons. Let that sink in.

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Gotta think the only way it's not Bieniemy is if he bombs the interview. If they really wanted Zampese they probably would have hired him by now.

Bieniemy's contract is up and all the other jobs he would want are taken.

Skins interviewed Roman and still waited on Bieniemy.

If Eric comes to DC and the offense is dynamic, Ron looks like a genius considering all the teams that have passed on him. If Eric is a disaster, Ron was probably gone anyway.

Riverboat is going down swinging big. Ron and Bieniemy shared a locker room on the 99 Eagles.

It's Bieniemy's job to lose.
 

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ND TE Mayer possibly at 16 anyone? 138 receptions, 16TD's his last 2 seasons. Let that sink in.

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I would love to see them draft Mayer but at the same time they need one of those LT's in the 1st round because I don't see any in free agency
 

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I would love to see them draft Mayer but at the same time they need one of those LT's in the 1st round because I don't see any in free agency
I feel Ron thinks Leno is fine for now. Perhaps draft his replacement in round 2? If Mayer is there, you can't pass on him. Just saying. He has STAR potential written all over him. He can catch and block.
 

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I feel Ron thinks Leno is fine for now. Perhaps draft his replacement in round 2? If Mayer is there, you can't pass on him. Just saying. He has STAR potential written all over him. He can catch and block.
Leno is horrible
 
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