Who are the superstars right now? Vote and discuss, if you are so inclined

[msgkings322]

I guess I will. Those two words are paramount to the question.

C'est la vie

 

[logic]

Is this true @logic ?

Fuckin’ Celtics fans

I did start my NBA fandom in So Cal as a Lakers fan and moved to the Pistons when I finally settled in Michigan. So the Celtics have always been that hated (in a great adversary way) franchise.

 

[broncosmitty]

Apparently you don’t know anything at all about the nba, I mean nothing.

Settle down Homer J. Thunder.

Settle down.

 

[msgkings322]

Some of these are fascinating...one dude has Durant as a superstar but not LeBron

The logic behind that must be very strange, although most likely it's just LeBron hate lol

 

[rjshull]

Thanks, this is why I put up the poll, to see how people think of it. Everyone does it differently, interesting to see. You have a tight definition, others here are broader.

Curious why Luka (no rings, no MVPs, pretty young) and Giannis make the cut but not someone like Jokic for you.

No one is going 10-20 though. The max seems to be 8-9 for the broader definitions, haven't looked at every vote closely

I might catch part of a game or two every season, so my opinion was partially based on the games I did watch, he reminded me of a Bird type of player, I have seen his mug in different articles on ESPN, so it was a complete blind guess. I put zero research behind it. And even 8-9 guys is to many to be superstars, when having that discussion you should be talking about the GOAT, either you are the best of the best or you are not, and that has to be 1 or 2 people at most, if you are outside of that then you are a star.

 

[trojanfan12]

I might catch part of a game or two every season, so my opinion was partially based on the games I did watch, he reminded me of a Bird type of player, I have seen his mug in different articles on ESPN, so it was a complete blind guess. I put zero research behind it. And even 8-9 guys is to many to be superstars, when having that discussion you should be talking about the GOAT, either you are the best of the best or you are not, and that has to be 1 or 2 people at most, if you are outside of that then you are a star.

Interesting take. You say that to be a superstar, a player has to be in the GOAT convo. Yet, you picked Luka, who is nowhere near that convo, but not Lebron who many think has passed MJ as GOAT.

 

[shopson67]

Interesting take. You say that to be a superstar, a player has to be in the GOAT convo. Yet, you picked Luka, who is nowhere near that convo, but not Lebron who many think has passed MJ as GOAT.

It's not interesting at all, it's clear bias.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Interesting take. You say that to be a superstar, a player has to be in the GOAT convo. Yet, you picked Luka, who is nowhere near that convo, but not Lebron who many think has passed MJ as GOAT.

Well when he said he doesn’t watch basketball his opinion was thrown out the window lol

 

[rjshull]

Interesting take. You say that to be a superstar, a player has to be in the GOAT convo. Yet, you picked Luka, who is nowhere near that convo, but not Lebron who many think has passed MJ as GOAT.

And you missed the part where I am not a basketball fan, that might, at most, catch a few minutes of a game or two a year.

 

[msgkings322]

@PPhan with the classic homer-y and LeBron-hating list

Butler, Durant, Shai, Kawhi are superstars, LeBron, Tatum, and Luka aren't? Love to hear that logic...

 

[Mecca]

SGA only has 11 votes.

Ah, I see this is a shaking my fist at the clouds kinda thread….lol

 

[Mecca]

I might catch part of a game or two every season, so my opinion was partially based on the games I did watch, he reminded me of a Bird type of player, I have seen his mug in different articles on ESPN, so it was a complete blind guess. I put zero research behind it. And even 8-9 guys is to many to be superstars, when having that discussion you should be talking about the GOAT, either you are the best of the best or you are not, and that has to be 1 or 2 people at most, if you are outside of that then you are a star.

You kinda disqualified yourself from the conversation if you only watch 2 games a year.

There are 30 teams that play 82 games each.

That’s 2,460 games.

…..and you only watched 2?

That doesn’t even include the playoffs.

 

[msgkings322]

SGA only has 11 votes.

Ah, I see this is a shaking my fist at the clouds kinda thread….lol

This thread has delivered pretty well I think...plenty of old man yelling at clouds voters but also plenty of fuck those old guys they're done voters, and then random mixes of the 2. You can see the homers and LeBron haters and all the rest.

No wrong answers though, 'superstar' has no fixed definition, the fun is the arguing

 

[msgkings322]

You kinda disqualified yourself from the conversation if you only watch 2 games a year.

There are 30 teams that play 82 games each.

That’s 2,460 games.

…..and you only watched 2?

That doesn’t even include the playoffs.

True, but that's a useful perspective too. Who are the stars so big that even people who barely watch think they are the superstars? That counts for something.

 

[Mecca]

True, but that's a useful perspective too. Who are the stars so big that even people who barely watch think they are the superstars? That counts for something.

That’s just name recognition.

Could be from endorsements, Nike commercials etc.

Lots of people know who Venus Williams is because of past greatness, current commercials, recent movie.

She’s still the 487th ranked tennis player.

So, anyone coming in here declaring her the GOAT or a current Superstar would be dismissed with the quicks.

 

[msgkings322]

That’s just name recognition.

Could be from endorsements, Nike commercials etc.

Lots of people know who Venus Williams is because of past greatness, current commercials, recent movie.

She’s still the 487th ranked tennis player.

So, anyone coming in here declaring her the GOAT or a current Superstar would be dismissed with the quicks.

Well calling Venus GOAT is silly no matter how much tennis you watch. I agree that’s an example of fame due to past greatness. If someone voted for Michael Jordan as a superstar in this thread that would be similar to what you’re saying.

To me fame is a huge factor in this thread, but not the only one.

 

[Mecca]

Well calling Venus GOAT is silly no matter how much tennis you watch. I agree that’s an example of fame due to past greatness. If someone voted for Michael Jordan as a superstar in this thread that would be similar to what you’re saying.

To me fame is a huge factor in this thread, but not the only one.

But, that’s exactly my point in regards to that poster.

Saying you have to be in the GOAT category to be a superstar, yet claiming Luka is a Superstar and Bron isn’t, implies Luka is a GOAT.

That’s just as absurd as making that claim about Venus.

Luka is awesome.

He’s been to the WCF once.

At least Venus has 7 singles grand slams and 14 doubles.

 

[Picklerick 2.0]

We all saw where I got this idea, thought it'd be fun to put up a poll

I think I included everyone

How people choose and how many will be interesting

Love how you omitted Anthony Edwards.

 

[rjshull]

You kinda disqualified yourself from the conversation if you only watch 2 games a year.

There are 30 teams that play 82 games each.

That’s 2,460 games.

…..and you only watched 2?

That doesn’t even include the playoffs.

I agree, I wasn’t trying to be an expert but I was called out for my response so I defended it. I clearly am anything but an expert. Now if we are talking football or hockey I’m in that discussion.

 

[msgkings322]

Love how you omitted Anthony Edwards.

Love how you omitted LeBron James

I did have a choice of Someone Else which you used for its purpose. I didn't include Ja or Wemby or others either. Edwards is on the track, maybe even soon, but it's a small minority view right now that you only hold because you're a Twolves fan. And that's fine, no wrong answers