Which Position Has The Most Difficult Transition

[SEC Official]

After the past couple years I would have to say officiating... I don't think I have ever seen it get this bad

That is true.. remember when they had the strike a few years back and we get the scab refs from college? That was the worst transition I have ever witnessed...

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

That is true.. remember when they had the strike a few years back and we get the scab refs from college? That was the worst transition I have ever witnessed...

Yea that was terrible. That was the beginning of last year's season I believe? First 4 games or something like that. But yea it was so bad that the NFL was forced to close the holdout with the regular refs.

It got a little better after that, but not by much.

 

[HammerDown]

So many times rookie QB's comment about how the speed of everything in the NFL is sooo much faster than college.

Broncos6482 makes a pretty good case for DT as well. These guys have always been bigger and stronger than anyone they play against their whole life til they get to the NFL and the tide is turned on them and they find themselves struggling to stay on their feet. Every NFL game I go to I watch the DL guys on the bench sucking oxygen because what they do it absolutely exhausting.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

This argument can be spun a few different ways..

Although I agree that D Tackles have to adjust because the O linemen are now 10x more experienced and larger... if they have the physical gifts they were drafted for, they will their chance.

WR on the other hand is tough, because success in college can be linked to scheme, etc. and doesn't necessarily translate to pro... some WR's that are good, suck in pro... but we have seen a number of wide receivers who were overlooked in college come in and dominate at the Pro level.

So WR for me is a much more risky proposition until you have a sure thing AJ Green or someone who is physically gifted to the point it would be hard for them to suck.

WR is a tough transition, but there are more just flat out athletic freaks at the position now that even in the NFL some of them still get by on talent...I see Julio Jones every week...more dangerous, but he's not near the WR that Roddy White is in terms of knowing the details of the position...routes, blocking, reading the DEF on blitzes, etc.

Another ex. is Demarious Thomas...Manning has made a star out of pretty raw player.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

WR is a tough transition, but there are more just flat out athletic freaks at the position now that even in the NFL some of them still get by on talent...I see Julio Jones every week...more dangerous, but he's not near the WR that Roddy White is in terms of knowing the details of the position...routes, blocking, reading the DEF on blitzes, etc.

Another ex. is Demarious Thomas...Manning has made a star out of pretty raw player.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way.

 

[SEC Official]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way.

Manning has made a star out of many players...

I don't think Harrison, Wayne, Stokely, Pollard, or Clarke were ever the same without him.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Manning has made a star out of many players...

I don't think Harrison, Wayne, Stokely, Pollard, or Clarke were ever the same without him.

Debatable... In terms of raw talent, I think Wayne is the only person I wouldn't include on this list. But in terms of football IQ, EVERYONE he has ever played with can be included.

 

[cdumler7]

WR is a tough transition, but there are more just flat out athletic freaks at the position now that even in the NFL some of them still get by on talent...I see Julio Jones every week...more dangerous, but he's not near the WR that Roddy White is in terms of knowing the details of the position...routes, blocking, reading the DEF on blitzes, etc.

Another ex. is Demarious Thomas...Manning has made a star out of pretty raw player.

Thomas has spoke in length about how being in a Peyton Manning offense requires so much more than just having raw talent. He demands the receivers know every route on the route tree and expects every one to know the playbook from front to back and recite in on the spot if called on. He has had to completely change how he approached the game of football so definitely Manning helped make him and Decker both more all-around receivers.

I think most knew Thomas had some great raw talent but the NFL is showing very quickly there are plenty of guys with raw talent that don't make a name for themselves. Manning definitely came along in their development at the right time.

 

[flaraider]

Walter Football put together a study of 10 years of drafts and for both rounds 1 and 2 listed whether the player had been a success or a bust. The definition of bust was a bit subjective, but if you accept it, then WR is the least successful high pick in football, followed by QB. 24 of 40 first round WRs went on to bust where only half the quarterbacks taken were true busts. To be fair, it considers Alex Smith, Jason Campbell, and Daunte Culpepper to have started enough to be considered successful.


WalterFootball.com: NFL Draftology 408: The 10-Year NFL Draft Study: Round 1

Well hell yeah those guys should be considered more success than bust for sure.

Thomas has spoke in length about how being in a Peyton Manning offense requires so much more than just having raw talent. He demands the receivers know every route on the route tree and expects every one to know the playbook from front to back and recite in on the spot if called on. He has had to completely change how he approached the game of football so definitely Manning helped make him and Decker both more all-around receivers.

I think most knew Thomas had some great raw talent but the NFL is showing very quickly there are plenty of guys with raw talent that don't make a name for themselves. Manning definitely came along in their development at the right time.

If it wasn't so true I would say you were suckin up, but PM really is the master at preparation, good post.

 

[cdumler7]

Well hell yeah those guys should be considered more success than bust for sure.




If it wasn't so true I would say you were suckin up, but PM really is the master at preparation, good post.

I appreciate the compliment. Until Manning became a Bronco I did not fully appreciate just how good of a football player he is and just how much he demands of those around him. Glad he is on my team for sure.

 

[HammerDown]

Another ex. is Demarious Thomas...Manning has made a star out of pretty raw player.

The guy is a weapon.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Thomas has spoke in length about how being in a Peyton Manning offense requires so much more than just having raw talent. He demands the receivers know every route on the route tree and expects every one to know the playbook from front to back and recite in on the spot if called on. He has had to completely change how he approached the game of football so definitely Manning helped make him and Decker both more all-around receivers.

I think most knew Thomas had some great raw talent but the NFL is showing very quickly there are plenty of guys with raw talent that don't make a name for themselves. Manning definitely came along in their development at the right time.

At Ga Tech...they passed about 10 times a game and 4 of them were deep jump balls to Thomas...he was just that super athletic guy and as you mentioned working with a seasoned pro like Manning has made him a star...another player from Ga Tech Stephen Hill maybe just as good of a talent...playing in NYJ.

 

[wiskyisgood12]

QB is one of the obvious choices. I'll go away from that.

I'll say a blindside tackle. You're expected to come in and keep elite pass rushers off of the quarterback. A lot of times it's you 1 on 1 with an end or a linebacker, with occasional help from a chipping running back or tight end. I think it's one of the most difficult jobs on the football field.