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What's next for Kirk Cousins?

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Beyond the obvious next four games, last night's game was one that he could have and should have stepped up his game. Taking command of this offense there were some troubling things that we hadn't seen before from him. Among them,audibling out of some plays where a peek to the left or right would have told him that their safety was playing up putting them in single coverage, ripe for attacking their corners. How about audibling into play action on those jumbo telegraphed run plays? The snap count has been exactly the same all year (on one) and changing that would have added valuable free yardage on penalties and slowed their D-line a bit. Finally, he should have called his number more on rollouts in the face that unending blitzing Dallas front. All in all this was the game where he should have separated himself from his Dallas counterpart and other players at that level. Maybe redemption will come in the coming weeks as Kirk leads this team into doing something that he has not done all season.....winning games on the road.
 
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Sorry Sty, you are looking to blame the wrong person. Cousins played well enough for a first year starter. He threw for 70% and one TD. You have no idea if he should have audibled, did audible etc. etc. If he did miss a couple of blitzes then that is part of the learning process. We saw him say earlier in the year he said he missed a blitz and the next week recognized it. It wasn't Cousins fault they only rushed for 2.8 yards per game. It wasn't his fault multiple blocks were missed. He didn't commit the three offense penalties on drives to stop them, that Grant, Reed and Garcon.

In the beginning of the year he couldn't win. Well he proved that wrong. He has come from behind at least 4 times, including last night. You said too many TOs, he has thrown three INTs in the last 6 games. You guys keep inventing new reasons why he isn't good enough.

The Redskins lost last night because they were -13 points on STs. Hopkins missed a field goal and had a returnable kick at he end which ended up costing them 3 points. Then there was DJax's brain fart.
 

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I still can't believe he didn't kick off out of the end zone the one time we really needed it.
 

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Sorry Sty, you are looking to blame the wrong person. Cousins played well enough for a first year starter. He threw for 70% and one TD. You have no idea if he should have audibled, did audible etc. etc. If he did miss a couple of blitzes then that is part of the learning process. We saw him say earlier in the year he said he missed a blitz and the next week recognized it. It wasn't Cousins fault they only rushed for 2.8 yards per game. It wasn't his fault multiple blocks were missed. He didn't commit the three offense penalties on drives to stop them, that Grant, Reed and Garcon.

In the beginning of the year he couldn't win. Well he proved that wrong. He has come from behind at least 4 times, including last night. You said too many TOs, he has thrown three INTs in the last 6 games. You guys keep inventing new reasons why he isn't good enough.

The Redskins lost last night because they were -13 points on STs. Hopkins missed a field goal and had a returnable kick at he end which ended up costing them 3 points. Then there was DJax's brain fart.

Maybe you should reread the piece. It clearly asks the question "What's next for Kirk Cousins?" does it not? Not once was there any inferences that KC was to blame for this lost. In that regard you are making things up. To be clear the piece is intended as a forward looking piece in his evaluation process. Is it also true that in recent times there has been much talk about his future contract? Well, doesn't that also require some certainty as to what the organization will be paying for? Yeah, yeah, I know not my money, trust n SM, Blah, blah and Blah.

Now about what you've written. Please don't tell me what I know or don't know, you have no idea what that might or might not include. Further, I'm perfectly willing to talk about his learning curve, which from my perspective becomes less and less an acceptable reason in the evaluation process. To use your example, quote: "We saw him say earlier in the year he said he missed a blitz and the next week recognized it." Unquote. Is it not fair to say if he saw the same thing once and recognize it the next time, that seeing the same thing again and not recognizing it in that moment says something about that learning curve?

I certainly would love to see where I personally said that he had too many turnovers, or invented new reasons why he is not good enough, it is an evaluation, not a damnation, there's a huge difference between those two things.

Finally, you wrote, "The Redskins lost last night because they were -13 points on STs. Hopkins missed a field goal and had a returnable kick at he end which ended up costing them 3 points. Then there was DJax's brain fart." Guess, not taking advantage of those 3 turnovers had nothing to do with it!
 

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winning on the road and playing well is his next step the cowboys had our number last nite
 

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I hope that this is not part of your RG3 related agenda. If so - you are wasting your time. Again - the offense was to blame, but it was primarily due to poor offensive line play & yes stellar play from the Cowboys defense.
 

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I hope that this is not part of your RG3 related agenda. If so - you are wasting your time. Again - the offense was to blame, but it was primarily due to poor offensive line play & yes stellar play from the Cowboys defense.

KC's not blameless.

If he's not allowed to audible then why isn't he. If he can audible then why continue running RBs directly into LB stunts. It was like the Skins were playing in the CFL for a while where they only have 3 downs. They were wasting their 1st down on every possession it felt like.

Plus I think he missed on at least one for sure and probably 2 TDs during the course of the game.
 
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KC definitely regressed last night. He is just not consistent right now. Hopefully it changes.
 

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KC's not blameless.

If he's not allowed to audible then why isn't he. If he can audible then why continue running RBs directly into LB stunts. It was like the Skins were playing in the CFL for a while where they only have 3 downs. They were wasting their 1st down on every possession it felt like. He also missed on some TDs, one in a fashion that's becomme very familiar.

Plus I think he missed on at least one for sure and probably 2 TDs during the course of the game.

No denying that, but IMO that was not the major issue. Regardless of the QB this team needs to establish a running game & they have been pretty bad in this area for most of this season. Sure Cousins needs to improve (and that is certainly possible), but this team also needs some more offensive weapons next season & beyond.

I think that they need to go with Cousins moving forward & regardless of how I feel that is the direction where they are headed.
 

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Sorry Sty, you are looking to blame the wrong person. Cousins played well enough for a first year starter. He threw for 70% and one TD. You have no idea if he should have audibled, did audible etc. etc. If he did miss a couple of blitzes then that is part of the learning process. We saw him say earlier in the year he said he missed a blitz and the next week recognized it. It wasn't Cousins fault they only rushed for 2.8 yards per game. It wasn't his fault multiple blocks were missed. He didn't commit the three offense penalties on drives to stop them, that Grant, Reed and Garcon.

In the beginning of the year he couldn't win. Well he proved that wrong. He has come from behind at least 4 times, including last night. You said too many TOs, he has thrown three INTs in the last 6 games. You guys keep inventing new reasons why he isn't good enough.

The Redskins lost last night because they were -13 points on STs. Hopkins missed a field goal and had a returnable kick at he end which ended up costing them 3 points. Then there was DJax's brain fart.

I think its less inventing reasons and more he had a hell of a lot of problems as a QB coming into this season. Like more than most people on here admit. Now he's improved on a lot of those issues, but that doesnt mean we cant still think our QB should be better. Ultimately it wasnt really Cousins fault we lost last night but he didnt really do anything to help either.
 

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The Cowboys knew exactly what our run game would do and played right into their hands because of Callahan which is why they blitzed all night and we never adjusted. They knew KC wouldn't have time to throw down field to Garcon (1x) and Jackson because of the blitz which left Dallas in the game because we only kicked or missed FG's. The Cowboy game plan worked to perfection and while you can't lay blame solely on the HC, you can lay blame on the HC since that is the hat he wears. He got out coached yet again. Gruden should have been able to seize the moment and take control of the division with a win over the 3-8 Cowboys without their QB and a shotty run game and he couldn't do that. Why didn't we blitz the hell out of Cassell? We knew they would throw to Dez and Witten all night since this was their last gasp. No way around what happened last night, we were out coached and NEVER really blocked Sean Lee which was pathetic imo.
 

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Maybe you should reread the piece. It clearly asks the question "What's next for Kirk Cousins?" does it not? Not once was there any inferences that KC was to blame for this lost. In that regard you are making things up. To be clear the piece is intended as a forward looking piece in his evaluation process. Is it also true that in recent times there has been much talk about his future contract? Well, doesn't that also require some certainty as to what the organization will be paying for? Yeah, yeah, I know not my money, trust n SM, Blah, blah and Blah.

Now about what you've written. Please don't tell me what I know or don't know, you have no idea what that might or might not include. Further, I'm perfectly willing to talk about his learning curve, which from my perspective becomes less and less an acceptable reason in the evaluation process. To use your example, quote: "We saw him say earlier in the year he said he missed a blitz and the next week recognized it." Unquote. Is it not fair to say if he saw the same thing once and recognize it the next time, that seeing the same thing again and not recognizing it in that moment says something about that learning curve?

I certainly would love to see where I personally said that he had too many turnovers, or invented new reasons why he is not good enough, it is an evaluation, not a damnation, there's a huge difference between those two things.

Finally, you wrote, "The Redskins lost last night because they were -13 points on STs. Hopkins missed a field goal and had a returnable kick at he end which ended up costing them 3 points. Then there was DJax's brain fart." Guess, not taking advantage of those 3 turnovers had nothing to do with it!

To be fair Sty, you should've known that if you do anything other than bow down to the almighty Cousins around here people will lose their mind. :D
 

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That is why most of this game was on Mcvay. See my post. KC has to be able to audible at the line on the 3rd and short plays.
 

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To be fair Sty, you should've known that if you do anything other than bow down to the almighty Cousins around here people will lose their mind. :D

Can't speak for anyone else, but I am certainly not a Cousins worshipper. I just try to see things objectively & last nt the bulk of the blame has to fall on the Redskins O line. Also - again - the other guys do get paid to win & the Cowboys defense played extremely well (whether you want to admit it or not).

I truly believe that any of the other Redskins QB options would have done as bad or worse if they were playing last nt. I saw play after play where Cowboys were in the backfield rt after the snap. I also saw a running game that did absolutely nothing until late in the game. Go ahead & put the whole blame on Cousins - it just makes Redskins fans look that much worse.
 

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I only place blame on last nights debacle on one guy, the HC as it should be...
 

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Can't speak for anyone else, but I am certainly not a Cousins worshipper. I just try to see things objectively & last nt the bulk of the blame has to fall on the Redskins O line. Also - again - the other guys do get paid to win & the Cowboys defense played extremely well (whether you want to admit it or not).

I truly believe that any of the other Redskins QB options would have done as bad or worse if they were playing last nt. I saw play after play where Cowboys were in the backfield rt after the snap. I also saw a running game that did absolutely nothing until late in the game. Go ahead put the whole blame on Cousins - it just makes Redskins fans look that much worse.

Don't worry I didnt mean you lol.

And Im not sure if the putting the blame Cousins thing was directed at me but I did say it wasnt really his fault - he just didnt help either.
 

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I only place blame on last nights debacle on one guy, the HC as it should be...

HC can only do as well as the talent on the field. The Redskins O line did poorly overall last nt. Sure some of that could be attributed to coaching but the players were also responsible to a major degree.

We need to get away from this mindset of blaming everything on the coach and QB. That is what uninformed football fans do - we are better than that!
 

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Don't worry I didnt mean you lol.

And Im not sure if the putting the blame Cousins thing was directed at me but I did say it wasnt really his fault - he just didnt help either.

NP - peace. I am waiting for this sick feeling in my stomach to go away (who knows may be worse come Sun nt).
 

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No denying that, but IMO that was not the major issue. Regardless of the QB this team needs to establish a running game & they have been pretty bad in this area for most of this season. Sure Cousins needs to improve (and that is certainly possible), but this team also needs some more offensive weapons next season & beyond.

I think that they need to go with Cousins moving forward & regardless of how I feel that is the direction where they are headed.

Yeah, that's all reasonable and I agree. Personally I'm very disappointed in the job Callahan has done or not done with the OL. As well as with Gruden's or whoever's offensive play-calling. Its simple-minded, and predictable. And if I were playing the Skins I'd blitz the shit outta them up the middle on any given play. The interior of the left OL has looked bad at various the last 2 weeks now. Some of those penalties against Skins pass catchers were whack, but that doesn't change the fact that it appears that no one is attempting to help Reed correct his blocking techniques and that's pissing me to.

Far as staying with Cousins, sure, I'm with that, but its as much a case of who else do we have or where else can we go. And with the answers to those questions being no one and no where its like, OK, lets go with Cuz I guess. No gung ho or excitement accompanies that answer though.
 

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Yeah, that's all reasonable and I agree. Personally I'm very disappointed in the job Callahan has done or not done with the OL. As well as with Gruden's or whoever's offensive play-calling. Its simple-minded, and predictable. And if I were playing the Skins I'd blitz the shit outta them up the middle on any given play. The interior of the left OL has looked bad at various the last 2 weeks now. Some of those penalties against Skins pass catchers were whack, but that doesn't change the fact that it appears that no one is attempting to help Reed correct his blocking techniques and that's pissing me to.

Far as staying with Cousins, sure, I'm with that, but its as much a case of who else do we have or where else can we go. And with the answers to those questions being no one and no where its like, OK, lets go with Cuz I guess. No gung ho or excitement accompanies that answer though.

Agree. Yep - I am also puzzled with Callahan - perhaps we rushed to judgment in this area. Up to the O line to prove that they can still be effective moving forward. This team needs to prove themselves & show up ready to play on Sunday. I am certainly not confident at this pt.
 
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