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Game Thread: Week 17- Denver Broncos @ Cincinnati Bengals

CrashDavisSports

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Good game guys. Your defense really gave us fits. Looked like an AFC North game there for a while. Too many dropped passes by our all-pro wr's, so many injuries this year have hamstrung us. Our defense lost its #1 and #2 CB, Geno Stone at Safety was one of the worst free agent pickups we have made in a while. Our oline was limping in that game Saturday with injuries all up and down th board, and it showed with your pass rush.

However, several of your posters are correct on a couple different things. Chase is about to get paid, and now both Burrow and Chase are putting front office on notice that they want Higgins back. Not sure if that means Burrow is restructuring or what, but gonna be hard to pay 3 guys over 100 million a year, with a defense struggling as much as they are. Paying a top tier QB is hard for the team budget.

Also, don't think we are #1 in offense, but I haven't checked lately to be honest. However, that is one area we have done well with. When you have a QB as smart and as accurate as Burrow, if you have weapons around him, opposing defenses are screwed for the day because you can't cover everyone all day. You may succeed a series or three, or take a player out of a game plan, but this offense is going to score points on any defense. Some defenses may match up well and limit points, but it is really hard to limit a Burrow led offense to less than 20 points.

You guys did a great job Saturday, it was frustrating, your pass rush was the best we have seen regardless of our oline injuries. That is the only way to limit Burrow is to get to him fast and put pressure on him to throw before he wants. He is really good at moving around in the pocket though because he had to be with our bad olines last few years. He will not be an MVP this year because of our record and what Lamar, Allen and Goff are doing, mostly Lamar, but he is one of the, if not the best passing QB's in the NFL.

The Bengals stand little chance of making the playoffs at this point. You guys play a KC team probably resting starters. I will be honest and it is really no slight against you, but KC has Denver's number when starters play lately, and yes, that is because Denver hasn't had great teams and KC is putting out a dynasty, but if I was KC I almost rest my starters on purpose to get Denver in the playoffs as the #7 seed over Cincinnati. Who would you rather see as a potential matchup in the playoffs as KC? Denver who they have beat like 14 out of last 16 times at home, or Cincinnati who has faced you twice in the AFC Championship game lately, split with you and been your biggest adversary? Denver has to get past Buffalo first anyways, a team Cincinnati beat the crap out of in the playoffs a couple years ago.

I am just saying, you can play like crap and I can see enough "bad coaching, dropped passes, miscommunication, lack of starters" getting in the way for KC to win that game this week. You may be able to play your worst game of the season and still win by 7.
 

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Broncos don't have the talent to beat good teams. ILB are below average, DL is slightly above average, but sack numbers are inflated, outside of Surtain, the secondary is average. TE garbage, RB lower level of the league, WR average at best, but they are young and improving so there is that. OL numbers say they are elite, but elite OL's produce better rushing numbers so I just don't understand that.

This season has been better than I expected record wise, but the Broncos haven't won against a good team all year and that is concerning. Also not sure about VJ as a coach and quite honestly the mighty Sean Payton hasn't exactly out coached anyone this season and has made some real questionable decisions. I hope they pull one out against KC so they can taste the playoffs, but not really holding out any real hope.
 

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Broncos don't have the talent to beat good teams. ILB are below average, DL is slightly above average, but sack numbers are inflated, outside of Surtain, the secondary is average. TE garbage, RB lower level of the league, WR average at best, but they are young and improving so there is that. OL numbers say they are elite, but elite OL's produce better rushing numbers so I just don't understand that.

This season has been better than I expected record wise, but the Broncos haven't won against a good team all year and that is concerning. Also not sure about VJ as a coach and quite honestly the mighty Sean Payton hasn't exactly out coached anyone this season and has made some real questionable decisions. I hope they pull one out against KC so they can taste the playoffs, but not really holding out any real hope.
That’s on helluva negative take.

How are sack numbers inflated? Did someone give extra credit to our guys?
All the defensive players seem to be bad as does VJ (coaching). Then how do we continue to be among the league leaders in almost all defensive statistical categories? It would seem to me if the players are bad then the coaching is better than you give them credit for - or if the coaching is bad then the players are better than you think. I don’t think it both can be true and play as well as we have.

Personally, I’m more than satisfied with this season. Many experts deemed our roster as among the worst in the league before the season, and I didn’t disagree. There have been pleasant surprises - and the greatest is the development of a QBOTF.
 

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That’s on helluva negative take.

How are sack numbers inflated? Did someone give extra credit to our guys?
All the defensive players seem to be bad as does VJ (coaching). Then how do we continue to be among the league leaders in almost all defensive statistical categories? It would seem to me if the players are bad then the coaching is better than you give them credit for - or if the coaching is bad then the players are better than you think. I don’t think it both can be true and play as well as we have.

Personally, I’m more than satisfied with this season. Many experts deemed our roster as among the worst in the league before the season, and I didn’t disagree. There have been pleasant surprises - and the greatest is the development of a QBOTF.

Another great post.
 

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That’s on helluva negative take.

How are sack numbers inflated? Did someone give extra credit to our guys?
All the defensive players seem to be bad as does VJ (coaching). Then how do we continue to be among the league leaders in almost all defensive statistical categories? It would seem to me if the players are bad then the coaching is better than you give them credit for - or if the coaching is bad then the players are better than you think. I don’t think it both can be true and play as well as we have.

Personally, I’m more than satisfied with this season. Many experts deemed our roster as among the worst in the league before the season, and I didn’t disagree. There have been pleasant surprises - and the greatest is the development of a QBOTF.
The D feasted on really bad teams and gives up horrendous eye popping offensive numbers to any quality offensive team; thus, defensive stats are inflated. Ravens = 396 yards offense. Cleveland = 552 yards!!!!!!!!! Bengals = 499 yards. Chargers =380 yards and 350 yards. Colts = 310 and were on there way to more before the dropped ball fluke. Even the Raiders had 360 and 330 yards of offense and outgained the Broncos in both. The defense simply isn't as good as the numbers or rankings show and they get worse with each week. Its just an honest take that more talent is needed to really be a contender. I do think the pass rush is legit just too many other holes behind it.
 
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