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Washington Post "Roger Goodell misled me on Tom Brady. I won’t trust him again."

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Not exactly sure about what is right or wrong here. However - most of this is hardly what I would call interesting especially at this pt. Even a lot of diehard football fans are becoming bored with this whole saga. I can't wait for actual football to take place so that this can move towards the back page where it belongs.

Do not hold your breath. Air in footballs will be a topic for many writers this coming season.
 

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He wont....again, Clemens won in court also

People that don't think he's a cheater today (Pats fans) still wont after he wins in court

People that do (everyone else) will still think he's a cheater after he wins in court


Again, big time attorneys win these cases, they always find some legal loophole that will work in his favor

The haters will always be out there, regardless. I just think the fact that Chris Mortensen(and others) were fed incorrect info from the NFL and ran with it to shape public opinion is bullshit. The NFL is a circus. Nobody had ever heard about air pressure in the footballs prior to this case and we likely never will again.
 

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i honestly cant wait for the first 2 fumble game they have this year. lotta wet windows in here.
 

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And Tex is in a 3 headed MVP Race with Trout and Donaldson

Love Ya!

There is no "race". Trout is on a different planet than everyone else. We've discussed Teixeira; he's been a monster all year. It's common for players to have big rebound years at age 36.
 

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note: the washington post, is published in washington, mass. now you can all google Dan Steinberg and tell me he once had chowder here, rendering his article useless.

Roger Goodell misled me on Tom Brady. I wont trust him again. - The Washington Post

Roger Goodell misled me on Tom Brady. I won’t trust him again.

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By Dan Steinberg August 5 at 9:00 AM
Last week, I relied on the word of Roger Goodell. I won’t make that mistake again.

When the NFL commissioner issued his 20-page decision to uphold Tom Brady’s suspension, I was asked to whip up some thoughts that might (and did) go on the front page of The Washington Post. To the extent I had a conclusion, it was that this ridiculous scandal was making everyone look bad, for no apparent reason.

When it actually came time to ding Brady for his misdeeds, though, I found them pretty slim. He seemed non-believable when he claimed he didn’t know a Patriots ballboy, for example, which is hardly a crime. And the destruction of his cell phone felt sort of odd — although so does eating morning-after Taco Bell.

But among the most powerful weapons Goodell deployed was this: that Brady had suggested his frequent communications with the key Patriots equipment assistant in the days after the scandal broke concerned the preparation of Super Bowl balls and not DeflateGate, a hard-to-believe claim.

“Mr. Brady testified that he was unable to recall any specifics of those discussions and he suggested that their principal subject was preparation of game balls for the Super Bowl,” Goodell wrote.


Goodell further argued that the huge uptick in communication between Brady and the assistant “undermines any suggestion that the communications addressed only preparation of footballs for the Super Bowl rather than the tampering allegations and their anticipated responses to inquiries about the tampering.”

Those words swayed my original piece, which was based on Goodell’s report. And those words were, to be frank, hogwash.

We now have the transcripts of Brady’s testimony. Brady admitted that he didn’t “remember exactly what we discussed,” but suggested there were two topics: “one was the allegations which we were facing and the second was getting ready for the Super Bowl,” and that he was talking to the assistant “about those things.”

Later, Brady — trying to reconstruct months-old conversations — said “I think I was trying to figure out what happened [with the footballs], you know what could be — possibly could have happened to those balls.”

Yes, Brady also said that “most of the conversations centered around” breaking in footballs for the Super Bowl. But he made it clear that they indeed discussed the allegations and the supposedly deflated footballs. So why on earth was the commissioner pounding his fist over “any suggestion that the communications addressed only preparation of footballs for the Super Bowl rather than the tampering allegations?” Brady said, in plain English, that the allegations had been discussed.

Look, there is so much gobbledygook in all of these very-official-sounding reports that inconsistencies will occur. Such as, how many times did Brady and the assistant talk on the day after the AFC title game?

“Brady and Jastremski spoke twice by telephone on January 19 (calls lasting a total of 25 minutes and 2 seconds),” the Wells Report claims on page 127.

“Brady and Jastremski spoke by telephone at least twice on January 19 (calls lasting a total of 25 minutes and 2 seconds),” the Wells Report claims on page 18.

“Jastremski and Brady spoke to each other on the telephone four times on January 19, for a total of 25 minutes and 2 seconds,” the Wells Report claims on page 101.

“On January 19, the day following the AFC Championship Game, Mr. Brady and Mr. Jastremski had four cellphone conversations, totaling more than 25 minutes,” Goodell wrote.

[Read the full transcript of the appeal hearing here]

And how long did the assistant talk to the ballboy on that day?

“This [first] call between McNally and Jastremski lasted 9 minutes and 12 seconds. … [Later] they spoke for 7 minutes and 55 seconds. … Approximately one hour later, Jastremski called McNally again, and they spoke for 27 minutes and 18 seconds….Later that evening, McNally called Jastremski twice and they spoke for 13 minutes and 34 seconds,” the Wells Report claims.

Goodell, on the other hand, cites a conversation of “nearly ten minutes” between Jastremski and McNally, and then says “they spoke multiple additional times throughout the remainder of the day for a total of 22 minutes.”

So was it 22 minutes, after “nearly ten” minutes? Or was it about 49 minutes, after about nine minutes? Does this matter, all these facts and figures? Only insofar as the Wells Report (and Goodell) have tried to transform an avalanche of statistics about cellphone conversations into evidence of wrongdoing. If that’s your strategy, at least stay consistent.

Still, that’s mostly trivia and fact-checking. Being deliberately misleading about whether or not Brady admitted to discussing the allegations with the assistant during those conversations is not.

This isn’t about whether or not anyone took air out of footballs, or whether or not a quarterback knew anything untoward was happening. This is about whether the commissioner of the NFL cares at all about accuracy, and whether he can be believed when he belches out his 20-page decisions. Last week, I made the mistake of assuming he could. I’ll try not to do that again.



Jesus h Christ. I think the endless coverage of this has driven you mad.
 

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There is no "race". Trout is on a different planet than everyone else. We've discussed Teixeira; he's been a monster all year. It's common for players to have big rebound years at age 36.

Tex had 17 HR's the first half the year he hurt his wrist. Lousy after that and last year. Now he's healthy and pitching in the AL East quite frankly sucks, especially with all the injuries to Tampa
 

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Do not hold your breath. Air in footballs will be a topic for many writers this coming season.

NP. In about a month I will simply watch actual football games & ignore these clowns.
 

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The haters will always be out there, regardless. I just think the fact that Chris Mortensen(and others) were fed incorrect info from the NFL and ran with it to shape public opinion is bullshit. The NFL is a circus. Nobody had ever heard about air pressure in the footballs prior to this case and we likely never will again.

Chappee you son of a bitch! Where ya been?



Love Bill Simmons twitter attack.
 

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Do not hold your breath. Air in footballs will be a topic for many writers this coming season.


I can't wait for the next NFL equipment scandal. "Shoulder pads an inch too big" "Cleats - two millimeters too long" "Socks - an inch too short"
 

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I can't wait for the next NFL equipment scandal. "Shoulder pads an inch too big" "Cleats - two millimeters too long" "Socks - an inch too short"
"hey, buddy! those laces aint regulation!"
 

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everything ive seen online, on TV , or heard on the radio seems to be on the same page:

goodell fucked this all up, and it looks really, really bad for him and the league.

read up on Judge Berman. this is going to go very well for brady.

I'll believe it when it happens...
 

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Chappee you son of a bitch! Where ya been?

Love Bill Simmons twitter attack.

Hey Cereal! I'm actually at the Cape this week. Absolutely perfect all week. I've been taking a lot of time off this Summer; much like my favorite baseball team. How's the wife and my kids?
 

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Hey Cereal! I'm actually at the Cape this week. Absolutely perfect all week. I've been taking a lot of time off this Summer; much like my favorite baseball team. How's the wife and my kids?


Doing well! Going to try to make to the Cape over labor day but don't know if that's going to happen. Counting the days until football and the firing of Cherington.
 

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Nice work again Rock! Thanks~

The same guy who had a live meltdown over "all the redundant Patriots threads."

You own that hypocrisy well, Homer.
 
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