Warning: HOT TAKE thread...where Simmons gonna go?

[tlance]

Simmons and picks to Portland for Lillard.

Wow.

Got to put a lot of picks in there and some salary too I believe.

But that is interesting.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Simmons and picks to Portland for Lillard.

I think it’s gonna cost you Maxey or Thybulle as well. I would prefer they ship Maxey in that circumstance because swapping Simmons defense for Dame’s defense makes Thybulle more valuable. Add in the 50/50 chance you lose Danny Green as well. Thybulle becomes more important. As we speak, I hope dude is in the middle of shooting his 250 3s for the day. If dude can even become a 35% shooter from 3 consistently, he gets starters minutes and his defense gets you monster transition.

 

[mall3013]

I think it’s gonna cost you Maxey or Thybulle as well. I would prefer they ship Maxey in that circumstance because swapping Simmons defense for Dame’s defense makes Thybulle more valuable. Add in the 50/50 chance you lose Danny Green as well. Thybulle becomes more important. As we speak, I hope dude is in the middle of shooting his 250 3s for the day. If dude can even become a 35% shooter from 3 consistently, he gets starters minutes and his defense gets you monster transition.

Yeah, for sure one of Maxey or Thybulle would have to be included. I forgot to add that into mix. I think I read somewhere on CSNPhilly today there is an article about this trade rumor.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Yeah, for sure one of Maxey or Thybulle would have to be included. I forgot to add that into mix. I think I read somewhere on CSNPhilly today there is an article about this trade rumor.

I forget what thread I posted it in but I was talking this possibility earlier. A bunch of things have to happen but there’s a pathway to this for sure. 1) Dame really wants to be out and forces the Blazers hand. 2) Blazers will accommodate. 3) History says the team who is dealing the fed up star that wants to go to a contender loses the deal. There are limited “contenders” and that reduces what’s available coming back. 4) Simmons and Maxey are young kids with upside with a guarantee that if Simmons never gets better he’s a plus defensive player and a guy with handles that can run offense and be a plus transition player. 5) You also need Boston to focus on Beal because they can out do the Sixers deal with Jaylon Brown Marcus Smart and better draft assets than the Sixers have.

You need a lot of luck and you need a lot of Dame dictating terms. I feel pretty good with looking out at the league and Dame assessing that he would see the Sixers and Embiid as the best fit for him in chasing a ring but also not giving up shots or the role of number 1 offensive guy on the team.

 

[wildturkey]

Wow.

Got to put a lot of picks in there and some salary too I believe.

But that is interesting.

Dame for Simmons actually works money wise as a straight swap so there's no need to add other salary. Now, the issue would actually be if Simmons+picks is enough for Dame. You can add in Maxey and Thybulle and the deal still works without having to add in money on the Portland side. Depends on how much Dame forcing his way out depresses his value. Like if he says "I want Philly and that's it", there's no real need for Philly to keep throwing players in.

 

[shopson67]

Dame for Simmons actually works money wise as a straight swap so there's no need to add other salary. Now, the issue would actually be if Simmons+picks is enough for Dame. You can add in Maxey and Thybulle and the deal still works without having to add in money on the Portland side. Depends on how much Dame forcing his way out depresses his value. Like if he says "I want Philly and that's it", there's no real need for Philly to keep throwing players in.

If I'm moving Dame for Simmons, I'm looking to dump a salary on Philly, maybe Covington for Thybulle and Maxey.

Sixers
PG: Dame
SG: Seth
SF: Covington
PF: Harris
C: Embiid

Blazers
PG: Maxey/Simons
SG: CJ/Thybulle
SF: Powell
PF: Simmons (Dray role)
C: Nurkic

 

[fightinfunbags]

If I'm moving Dame for Simmons, I'm looking to dump a salary on Philly, maybe Covington for Thybulle and Maxey.

Sixers
PG: Dame
SG: Seth
SF: Covington
PF: Harris
C: Embiid

Blazers
PG: Maxey/Simons
SG: CJ/Thybulle
SF: Powell
PF: Simmons (Dray role)
C: Nurkic

I’m good with taking back RoCo if Thybulle has to go. Sixers need to pay attention to defense in a Dame/Simmons swap. I would much prefer keeping Thybulle though. I love Maxey as well but if you add Dame you are blocking his minutes anyway so the loss isn’t as great. We Philly fans are about to see if Morey’s reputation as a creative deal maker is just rumor or if it’s the truth.

 

[flyerhawk]

I’m good with taking back RoCo if Thybulle has to go. Sixers need to pay attention to defense in a Dame/Simmons swap. I would much prefer keeping Thybulle though. I love Maxey as well but if you add Dame you are blocking his minutes anyway so the loss isn’t as great. We Philly fans are about to see if Morey’s reputation as a creative deal maker is just rumor or if it’s the truth.

I'm certain we will be seeing a number of moves this offseason but I wouldn't be surprised if the deals will be completely unexpected.

 

[dtgold88]

I'm certain we will be seeing a number of moves this offseason but I wouldn't be surprised if the deals will be completely unexpected.

agree......how it usually goes.

Despite what some fans think, FO guys don't usually tell outsiders what their major plans are before they make them when it comes to draft and trades

 

[msgkings322]

I'm certain we will be seeing a number of moves this offseason but I wouldn't be surprised if the deals will be completely unexpected.

You wouldn't be surprised if you're...surprised?

 

[wildturkey]

If I'm moving Dame for Simmons, I'm looking to dump a salary on Philly, maybe Covington for Thybulle and Maxey.

Sixers
PG: Dame
SG: Seth
SF: Covington
PF: Harris
C: Embiid

Blazers
PG: Maxey/Simons
SG: CJ/Thybulle
SF: Powell
PF: Simmons (Dray role)
C: Nurkic

Blazers don't really have any long term salary though beyond CJ McCollum. Guys like Nurk and RoCo are at around 12 mil, but its short on years. Both will be free agents next summer. So it's probably more beneficial to keep them around to where you can either get the cap benefits yourself next summer or you can use them in trades for something else. Both those salaries are easily tradeable. Like say Dame forces his way out so the Blazers have to blow it up. There could be contending teams out there with trade exceptions that would give up a 1st round pick for Nurk or RoCo and you wouldn't have to take back any salary. Or maybe there's a contending team with a surplus of youth that needs some more vets. You could flip for those young assets.

 

[DJ Fieri]

LOL.

 

[trojanfan12]

Btw, I voted Lakers on this because...doesn't everyone eventually end up on the Lakers? lol

 

[DJ Fieri]

Btw, I voted Lakers on this because...doesn't everyone eventually end up on the Lakers? lol

LOL.

Maybe one day when LeBron retires.

 

[The Q]

Blazers don't really have any long term salary though beyond CJ McCollum. Guys like Nurk and RoCo are at around 12 mil, but its short on years. Both will be free agents next summer. So it's probably more beneficial to keep them around to where you can either get the cap benefits yourself next summer or you can use them in trades for something else. Both those salaries are easily tradeable. Like say Dame forces his way out so the Blazers have to blow it up. There could be contending teams out there with trade exceptions that would give up a 1st round pick for Nurk or RoCo and you wouldn't have to take back any salary. Or maybe there's a contending team with a surplus of youth that needs some more vets. You could flip for those young assets.

I think a cj/Tobias trade is more likely than a Dame/Simmons deal

 

[shopson67]

Blazers don't really have any long term salary though beyond CJ McCollum. Guys like Nurk and RoCo are at around 12 mil, but its short on years. Both will be free agents next summer. So it's probably more beneficial to keep them around to where you can either get the cap benefits yourself next summer or you can use them in trades for something else. Both those salaries are easily tradeable. Like say Dame forces his way out so the Blazers have to blow it up. There could be contending teams out there with trade exceptions that would give up a 1st round pick for Nurk or RoCo and you wouldn't have to take back any salary. Or maybe there's a contending team with a surplus of youth that needs some more vets. You could flip for those young assets.

They are right up against the luxury tax threshold though, so shedding some salary now wouldn't be the worst move.

 

[DJ Fieri]

 

[msgkings322]

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Um...who is this quoting? Can't really have him and Draymond on the same team.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Um...who is this quoting? Can't really have him and Draymond on the same team.

SAS.

 

[msgkings322]

SAS.

Oh so then it's not happening, just like when he tweeted about his 'sources' telling him it was.