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Wake Up Bill. Time to Hire Some help

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Unless they get a stud WR and OL coach then I don't see Mac going anywhere other than the same or possibly even worse..
His career could end like that of David Carr looked great early but do to repeated hits, sacks, punishment they start seeing ghosts and releasing the ball way to early.
 

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His career could end like that of David Carr looked great early but do to repeated hits, sacks, punishment they start seeing ghosts and releasing the ball way to early.
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I'm gonna remain optimistic. I recall posters on this board bitching quite a bit about how awful McD was. Now it's somebody else's turn.

IMO he never took the reigns off Mac and it showed. Now was that him or BB we will never know
 

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I'm gonna remain optimistic. I recall posters on this board bitching quite a bit about how awful McD was. Now it's somebody else's turn.
Josh?

Wow I thought he was great as OC we will have to see as a HC.
 

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Josh?

Wow I thought he was great as OC we will have to see as a HC.

I'm certainly not saying YOU were bitching but posters on this board were most certainly complaining about his play calling.
 

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I'm certainly not saying YOU were bitching but posters on this board were most certainly complaining about his play calling.
Yeah I agree and I know I commented about letting lose the reigns but he was a rookie so part of that is building his confidence. One offseason of conditioning, working with receivers and TEs, improving mechanics at the NFL level can make a world of difference. I think Mac did a good job knowing when to throw the ball away, going through his reads, etc. He may need to look off DBs more, and get his timing down but I do feel if Josh did hold back it was fair.
 

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So what exp does Patricia have as an O Line coach?

And if we are going to use their HC exp as a guide I think we are fucked
Trying to find the weak points of an O line as a DC gives him insight?

Just spit ballin...
 

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Trying to find the weak points of an O line as a DC gives him insight?

Just spit ballin...

I think so. Yes. And being a HC and getting all of that info from all of your coaches is likely very insightful as well.

Additionally, I think we all agree that watching Matt call the defense was pretty painful. Maybe just maybe he belongs on the offensive side of the ball.
 

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Just a thought. Patricia spent what? 10 years around Dante scarneccia and had to practice against his OL. I'm sure that some of it rubbed off.

Another one. Many of you have been square up my ass when Ive commented aboutBB getting older. You have expressed nothing'but faith and support of his decisions. Now that he's got some of his old staff back and is putting them in positions that you don't agree with, who are you blaming? These are BB's decisions.

I think I'll reserve my judgement until the end of the preseason.

Okay Bill, who'd gonna run the offense and defense.? Please don't say son Steve for the defense.
 

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Just a thought. Patricia spent what? 10 years around Dante scarneccia and had to practice against his OL. I'm sure that some of it rubbed off.

Another one. Many of you have been square up my ass when Ive commented aboutBB getting older. You have expressed nothing'but faith and support of his decisions. Now that he's got some of his old staff back and is putting them in positions that you don't agree with, who are you blaming? These are BB's decisions.

I think I'll reserve my judgement until the end of the preseason.

Okay Bill, who'd gonna run the offense and defense.? Please don't say son Steve for the defense.

I believe the Krafts likely have some input into these decisions as well and they're likely all on the exact same page which is why this organization tends to run very well. A decision is made and the leaders stick to the plan. I'm one of the ones that has been in constant disagreement with you regarding BB and remain so. The Patriots have been pillaged over and over and over again. Bill has said he prefers to promote from within because it's the system that matters and keeping the system in place is the top priority.

Bringing back MP and JJ brings back stability and they bring back valuable knowledge with them from their failed HC opportunities.
 

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I really like seeing all this back and forth today. I was too busy to join in or even know the conversation was ongoing, but I do like seeing the activity.

None of us truly know what is going on (the BB way), but maybe both Judge and the Rocketeer were meant to be offensive gurus.. I did here Rocketeer was extremely offensive while at Detroit.
 

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I really like seeing all this back and forth today. I was too busy to join in or even know the conversation was ongoing, but I do like seeing the activity.

None of us truly know what is going on (the BB way), but maybe both Judge and the Rocketeer were meant to be offensive gurus.. I did here Rocketeer was extremely offensive while at Detroit.
Offensive..ha ha....

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I'm fine with Coach B's decisions on this current coaching staff. They used to be head coaches. They know their shit. Some people make it like Patricia is standing there scratching his nuts wondering WtF is a Left Tackle.
I find it funny people keep referring to the fact the were head coaches all while ignoring the fact they sucked at it. And equally assume a former D Coordinator and shitty head coach somehow will make a great O Line coach. Seems more wishful thinking than logic IMO
 
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