Updated Heisman Watch

[ericd7633]

1. Tua
2. Kyler
3. Mustache

 

[Wamu]

He belongs ahead of everyone not named Kyler or Tua.

If he has a big game against That Team he'll get some mention. But like I said even if he's a finalist he's not winning.

Personally don't really care about the Heisman. I want Ohio State to beat Jimmy Jam's Crew & win the BigTen.

 

[theboardref]

Sorry, not true. If it was then Watson would have won and not Lamar Jackson.


However, I still have no idea how Lamar Jackson won.

Look my statement isn’t gospel. But the only time my statement is false is if there isn’t a Heisman worthy player on one of those front runner teams. Tebow won with a non-top Florida team, Lamar Jackson, and there are exceptions. But they are just that, exceptions.

 

[4down20]

Look my statement isn’t gospel. But the only time my statement is false is if there isn’t a Heisman worthy player on one of those front runner teams. Tebow won with a non-top Florida team, Lamar Jackson, and there are exceptions. But they are just that, exceptions.

I don't think it's about being on the best team or any of that, Watson checked all those boxes and actually deserved it on top of it.

He lost because of hype and a few flashy plays.

That's what it's all about, hype. True that top teams often get the most hype and best stats that produce the hype often times....as this thread shows. But it's really just about the hype and nothing else.

Hypesman Trophy is the accurate name.

 

[4down20]

Stolen from another forum as I'm too lazy to do such things(although honestly I think it's a fancy way of saying Tua gets more yards/TDs per attempt).


if Tua threw the same number of passes as Murray and you extrapolated his stats........

Tua Tagovailoa
212.22 QB Rating
193/279 (69.18%)
3,373 yards
12.1 YPA
37 TDs / 2 INT
307 YPG

Kyler Murray
205.82 QB Rating (70.25%)
196/279
3,310 yards
11.9 YPA
34 TDs / 6 INT
301 YPG

 

[thunderc]

Stolen from another forum as I'm too lazy to do such things(although honestly I think it's a fancy way of saying Tua gets more yards/TDs per attempt).


if Tua threw the same number of passes as Murray and you extrapolated his stats........

Tua Tagovailoa
212.22 QB Rating
193/279 (69.18%)
3,373 yards
12.1 YPA
37 TDs / 2 INT
307 YPG

Kyler Murray
205.82 QB Rating (70.25%)
196/279
3,310 yards
11.9 YPA
34 TDs / 6 INT
301 YPG

Ummm no it doesn’t work like that.

 

[Chewbaccer]

They should mindfuck everyone and give it to an o-lineman.

 

[bamabear82]

They should mindfuck everyone and give it to an o-lineman.

Jonah Williams ftw

 

[Chewbaccer]

Jonah Williams ftw

I'd be fine with that, other than the dude is obviously a queer with a name like Jonah. I'd go the Andrew Thomas route personally.

But at the end of the day, you know I'll be campaigning for Rodrigo Blankenship.

 

[bamabear82]

I'd be fine with that, other than the dude is obviously a queer with a name like Jonah. I'd go the Andrew Thomas route personally.

But at the end of the day, you know I'll be campaigning for Rodrigo Blankenship.

Bama's kicker is getting a bag of dicks.

 

[4down20]

Ummm no it doesn’t work like that.

Fine, Tua has more yards per attempt and more TD's per attempt than Murray.

Same thing.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Bama's kicker is getting a bag of dicks.

When you don't play close games, you don't really need a kicker.

 

[4down20]

When you don't play close games, you don't really need a kicker.

I might not need 2 nuts, but that doesn't mean I don't want 2 nuts.

 

[TheDayMan]

Gardner Minshew? Dark horse, but his #s are solid.

His numbers are about the same as Luke Falk two years ago. Would be about the same as Luke Falk last year but he missed a little time. Gonna be hard for any mike leach quarterback to ever get serious consideration.

 

[Chewbaccer]

I might not need 2 nuts, but that doesn't mean I don't want 2 nuts.

Let Tua try to kick FGs, he's probably awesome at that too.

 

[4down20]

Let Tua try to kick FGs, he's probably awesome at that too.

Well it can't be hard to kick an extra point.

But considering the kickers we've recruited and how they turned out, it would probably just ruin him too.

 

[Red_Alert]

 

[Across The Field]

His numbers are about the same as Luke Falk two years ago. Would be about the same as Luke Falk last year but he missed a little time. Gonna be hard for any mike leach quarterback to ever get serious consideration.

It wouldn't be if the qualitative numbers were better. He's got just so many more attempts than anyone else. If he was sitting at like 5400 yards and 45 TD passes it'd be different, but it's taken him that many attempts just to be tied for the national lead in TD passes, and he's only averaging 7.5 YPA, which isn't even top 50.

 

[Deep Creek]

Look my statement isn’t gospel. But the only time my statement is false is if there isn’t a Heisman worthy player on one of those front runner teams. Tebow won with a non-top Florida team, Lamar Jackson, and there are exceptions. But they are just that, exceptions.

I think the last winner on a "non top notch" team was either Manziel or RGIII.

 

[Deep Creek]

It wouldn't be if the qualitative numbers were better. He's got just so many more attempts than anyone else. If he was sitting at like 5400 yards and 45 TD passes it'd be different, but it's taken him that many attempts just to be tied for the national lead in TD passes, and he's only averaging 7.5 YPA, which isn't even top 50.

Yeah, if you subtracted those passes that are actually quasi long handoffs the numbers might look more accurate. But that ain't happenin'.