Triple Espresso of Coffee Talk

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Several flaws in those argument:

• His military service and his record of public service show he has a dedication to serving the citizens of the United States. Trump has shown he has a dedication to serving his own interests and ego without much regard for anyone else and has flauted American laws, contracts, and just basic decency many times over. The manner in which people carry themselves should be a factor beyond just how someone voted. I don't think Reagan was a good President from a policy/budget standpoint, but the country felt positively during his administration and that doesn't mean nothing. Trump is socially divisive and negative in a way McCain NEVER would have been as President. Our foreign relationships are frayed and consumer confidence will suffer. So it's more than just the voting record, but...
• Congress votes pretty close to unanimously about 10-20% of the time depending on the legislative session, so that changes that percentage some. Expand that further to include that few legislative actions are closely contested (as we have seen with ObamaCare for example), so expending political capital on an issue where your vote won't make a difference anyway is not savvy politically.
• Additionally, one of the jobs of those in the houses of government is to vote for the interests of those they represent, so the decision on how to vote does not necessarily align with one's own views perfectly either. Your conscience may want to vote one way, but you may feel compelled to align with those you represent and vote another. Or combine this with bullet point 2 above - it may be smarter to go along with some legislation that won't lose anyway to appease the district.
• The 83% does not include votes that never reached the floor. Legislation is often not brought to a vote when there is a good (or even slim) chance it will fail. McCain and some other Republican legislators have prevented votes from ever taking place by party leaders knowing their voting position prior to a roll call.
• Many of Trump's most detestable actions and flaws have not been centered on his legislative victories. He's done VERY little in that realm since taking office. The travel been, his attacks on the free press, his racial dog whistles, environmental regulation changes, his relationships with foreign leaders, etc. have all happened outside of the legislative process.

McCain has been a legislative member of the House or Senate for 35 years. That's prima facia evidence he is, in fact, a very good politician.

You said you don't get how people can be anti-Trump, but like McCain. You don't have to agree with me, but there are certainly MANY reasons for those feelings to be logical.

But those feelings are strictly based on that person's personality. A person's personality doesn't affect peoples' abilities to put food on their table and care for their ill family members, or the environment, or curb the insane amount of military spending the government does, or civil rights. Their shitty voting record sure as hell does though. McCain's voting record is shitty. There's really no argument to the contrary that makes him out to be some shining outlier in a field of drek.

 

[dare2be]

There's really no argument to the contrary that makes him out to be some shining outlier in a field of drek.

Except that he doesn't have to shine much (and doesn't) to outlie from the current field of drek. Yes, his level of drek hasn't changed much over the years, but it hasn't gotten worse like the drek around him.

 

[dash]

 

[forty_three]

Pft. Who isn't?

 

[puckhead]

that what happens when you raw-dog "adult actresses"

 

[thedddd]

Georgia County Votes To Keep Polling Places Open After Intense Scrutiny

Good news in Georgia. Just remember this could have been stopped by the Georgia Secretary of State who just happens to be this POS:
Who just happens to be running for Governor against her:

Stacey Abrams for Governor

Gee I wonder why he didn't want to stop it?

 

[puckhead]

 

[thedddd]

Worst part about it, he had a cheat sheet pinned to his jacket.

 

[scoutyjones2]

I've heard it said that the road to impeachment starts with an orange...

 

[dare2be]

Georgia County Votes To Keep Polling Places Open After Intense Scrutiny

Good news in Georgia. Just remember this could have been stopped by the Georgia Secretary of State who just happens to be this POS:
Who just happens to be running for Governor against her:

Stacey Abrams for Governor

Gee I wonder why he didn't want to stop it?

No worries, I'm sure they have a backup plan to suppress votes.

 

[Groo]

 

[Comeds]

Q: are the Beatles hugely overrated?

A: Beep beep'm beep beep yeah

 

[thedddd]

RIP John McCain. If you didn’t agree with his politics that is fine but he showed and deserved the respect back.

 

[Comeds]

 

[thedddd]

About sums it up.

 

[thedddd]

Then there is this:

 

[dash]

Then there is this:

Sometimes, you need more than 144 characters (or even 288 characters).

John McCain and I were members of different generations, came from completely different backgrounds, and competed at the highest level of politics. But we shared, for all our differences, a fidelity to something higher – the ideals for which generations of Americans and immigrants alike have fought, marched, and sacrificed. We saw our political battles, even, as a privilege, something noble, an opportunity to serve as stewards of those high ideals at home, and to advance them around the world. We saw this country as a place where anything is possible – and citizenship as our patriotic obligation to ensure it forever remains that way.

Few of us have been tested the way John once was, or required to show the kind of courage that he did. But all of us can aspire to the courage to put the greater good above our own. At John’s best, he showed us what that means. And for that, we are all in his debt. Michelle and I send our most heartfelt condolences to Cindy and their family.

 

[thedddd]

Sometimes, you need more than 144 characters (or even 288 characters).

John McCain and I were members of different generations, came from completely different backgrounds, and competed at the highest level of politics. But we shared, for all our differences, a fidelity to something higher – the ideals for which generations of Americans and immigrants alike have fought, marched, and sacrificed. We saw our political battles, even, as a privilege, something noble, an opportunity to serve as stewards of those high ideals at home, and to advance them around the world. We saw this country as a place where anything is possible – and citizenship as our patriotic obligation to ensure it forever remains that way.

Few of us have been tested the way John once was, or required to show the kind of courage that he did. But all of us can aspire to the courage to put the greater good above our own. At John’s best, he showed us what that means. And for that, we are all in his debt. Michelle and I send our most heartfelt condolences to Cindy and their family.

Yep President Obama's statement is heartfelt and truly meaningful.

 

[thedddd]

Teacher sat in car with former student's baby so new mom could attend job fair

This is the type of item why teachers deserve respect.

 

[jstewismybastardson]