Training Camp 2022

[Dean_Youngblood]

...and there goes Trey Sermon

 

[deep9er]

...and there goes Trey Sermon

Too bad he didn't work out but the 'blame' is on the 49ers for drafting him, drafting him that high. On top of that, trading two 4th's for the privilege to draft Sermon.

Could be he's just in a bad fit but could also be he needs 5 feet wide holes ala Ohio St.?

 

[deep9er]

It’s crazy. Except for Castro Fields, ALL of the Niners draft picks from the last THREE years are on the team (Kalia Davis is on NFI list).
2020: Kinlaw, Aiyuk, McKivitz, Woerner, Jennings
2021: Lance, banks, Sermon, Thomas, Moore, Lenoir, Hufanga
2022: Jackson, TDP, Gray, Burford, Womack, Zakelj, Purdy


Yep, certainly a good sign even though Sermon has since been waived. A good sign but no guarantees, obviously a LOT depends on Lance alone.

When your drafts are successful, the SB window stays open longer. Good to see that even the later picks have made the team.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

...and there goes Trey Sermon

Looks like he was the player we waived to make room for the IOL we picked up off waivers. Still, Thank God he's gone. He just didn't fit this zone system. I wonder if he can fit a different running system, but something about him gives me Carlos Hyde, middling rotational RB vibes.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Updated Roster (changes in bold):
QB 3 Lance, Jimmy, Purdy
RB 4 Mitchell, Wilson, TDP, Mason
FB 1 Juice
WR 5 Deebo, Aiyuk, Ray Ray, Jennings, Gray
TE 4 Kittle, Dwelley, Woerner, Kroft
OL 10 Williams, Banks, Brendel, Burford, McGlinchey, Brunskill, McKivitz, J.Moore, N.Zakelj, Hance

DL 10 Bosa, Armstead, Kinlaw, Ebukam, Givens, Hyder, Jackson, Omenihu, Ridgeway, Willis
LB 5 AlShaair, Greenlaw, Warner, Burks, DFF
CB 5 Moseley, C.Ward, A.Thomas, D.Lenoir, Womack
S 3 Hufanga, T.Moore, Odum

ST 3 Gould, Pepper, Wishnowsky

The PS:
OL: OG Poe, OT Alfredo Gutierrez, OC Keaton Sutherland
WR: Tay Martin, W.Snead, Malik Turner
LB: Mcrary-Ball
CB: Q. Knight
S: T.Hawkins, T.Gipson
DL: Alex Barrett, Akeem Spence, DL Kemoko Turay

Thoughts on the PS:
It's amazing that we got Turay and Poe on the PS. They could've easily made the 53 man roster.
Knight showed promise at NCB and S. He could make the team next year.
Considering 2 of our LBs are FAs after the year, McCary-Ball is likely on the team next year.
Gotta note that we have zero TEs on the PS at the moment.
Only 1 real center on the PS, Sutherland
No Rbs on the PS. But there are plenty on the market to choose from.

 

[deep9er]

Updated Roster (changes in bold):
QB 3 Lance, Jimmy, Purdy
RB 4 Mitchell, Wilson, TDP, Mason
FB 1 Juice
WR 5 Deebo, Aiyuk, Ray Ray, Jennings, Gray
TE 4 Kittle, Dwelley, Woerner, Kroft
OL 10 Williams, Banks, Brendel, Burford, McGlinchey, Brunskill, McKivitz, J.Moore, N.Zakelj, Hance

DL 10 Bosa, Armstead, Kinlaw, Ebukam, Givens, Hyder, Jackson, Omenihu, Ridgeway, Willis
LB 5 AlShaair, Greenlaw, Warner, Burks, DFF
CB 5 Moseley, C.Ward, A.Thomas, D.Lenoir, Womack
S 3 Hufanga, T.Moore, Odum

ST 3 Gould, Pepper, Wishnowsky

The PS:
OL: OG Poe, OT Alfredo Gutierrez, OC Keaton Sutherland
WR: Tay Martin, W.Snead, Malik Turner
LB: Mcrary-Ball
CB: Q. Knight
S: T.Hawkins, T.Gipson
DL: Alex Barrett, Akeem Spence, DL Kemoko Turay

Thoughts on the PS:
It's amazing that we got Turay and Poe on the PS. They could've easily made the 53 man roster.
Knight showed promise at NCB and S. He could make the team next year.
Considering 2 of our LBs are FAs after the year, McCary-Ball is likely on the team next year.
Gotta note that we have zero TEs on the PS at the moment.
Only 1 real center on the PS, Sutherland
No Rbs on the PS. But there are plenty on the market to choose from.

Lets hope there are no injuries in the defensive secondary, for at least four weeks. Even with JV on IR, i would think they'll add at least one more CB to the PS.

My impression of Q. Knight is Safety/NB prospect, not CB?

 

[Niner Outlaw]

My impression of Q. Knight is Safety/NB prospect, not CB?

Everything I've read on him says that is correct. Safety and NCB, not an outside CB.

Maybe our thinness at safety is why there are 3 safeties on the PS.

I have to wonder if the FO will bring in Tartt.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

And right on cue, the Niners bring in Cb/S D.Johnson to the PS. It's really just a matter of time...

And there are still other spots open on the PS. I wonder what we're waiting on.

 

[deep9er]

Everything I've read on him says that is correct. Safety and NCB, not an outside CB.

Maybe our thinness at safety is why there are 3 safeties on the PS.

I have to wonder if the FO will bring in Tartt.

They're not bringing in Tartt because of cap reasons. Forgot what Chapman said but its related to the cap hit.

Apparently, Tartt isn't SO GOOD that we need him badly, else they'd sign him anyway. Because i can't see that his cap hit is so high that its preventive? Anyway, the contingency at Safety short term is Johnson and Gipson, the mid-term are Hawkins and Knight.

 

[deep9er]

And right on cue, the Niners bring in Cb/S D.Johnson to the PS. It's really just a matter of time...

And there are still other spots open on the PS. I wonder what we're waiting on.

Yeah, D. Johnson, time immemorial. haaaaa

The 49ers are still making moves even after releasing the 53 man, likewise other teams are doing the same thing. No rush to fill the PS since other players might become available. I would think at this point they're looking for potential as opposed to specific spots.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

They're not bringing in Tartt because of cap reasons. Forgot what Chapman said but its related to the cap hit.

Apparently, Tartt isn't SO GOOD that we need him badly, else they'd sign him anyway. Because i can't see that his cap hit is so high that its preventive? Anyway, the contingency at Safety short term is Johnson and Gipson, the mid-term are Hawkins and Knight.

I don't understand how it could be a cap hit thing with Tartt. His contract expired, so he has no current cap hit, and it looks like he'd be happy to take the vet minimum just to have a job.

OTOH, could it be an issue with the comp formula? I don't see how that fits either b/c the Eagles signed him in June, when signings no longer counted against the comp formula.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

...and there goes Trey Sermon

And Trey Sermon has been picked up by the Eagles.

 

[Niner Outlaw]

Tartt said he'd be open to a return to the Niners, but "at the right price." He said he wouldn't play for the minimum. So, it sounds like he'll be unemployed for a while.