jakedog56
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I saw a article that compared a bunch of the major sites grades. Only one A- and that was for the 9ers. The consensus grade for the Seahawks is a B-, which is about midpoint.
You are focusing on specific players that may or may not pan out.
Ruben Foster doesn't have a position to play for us right now. And, IMO, if you are going to draft a LB in the first round they need to be transcendent players. Maybe Foster will be one of those players but that seems unlikely.
The draft is always a crap shoot. Focusing on individual players is pointless.
Have you seen our record of drafting after the top two rounds?
He coyld have filled our olb spot, he is potentially a transcendent player like you said. What makes it worse is we gave him to the niners for a 4th and 6th round pick from the jags we got for moving down again
Lockett was a 3rd rounder, who else has worked out recently? Most of the homeruns were taken in 2012 and earlier. Not a lot has come from more recent drafts
Where was Foster going to play on this team? Isn't he like 225 pounds? Already with shoulder issues? Our open LB spot is SAM, and 225 lbs is not gonna cut it there. Had the Hawks not traded down at all, I think there's a better chance they would have still picked McDowell over Foster.
foster fell for off field issues and potential injury issues, not because of talent issues.
if he ends up an all pro and mcdowell ends up a bust, its a huge blunder.
Ignore them. Let your HC be your guide until he cant do it any more.So are we supposed to ignore the "experts" or adore them?
So you think that nearly every Day 2 pick we made was a bad pick?
No their picks were ok but the value was a little low. They grabbed way to many players that i felt were drafted to high. The players they got have flaws and were graded lower for a reason thats all i am saying. If they can get Malik McDowell to play then thats a pretty good pick up but this dude was taking GAMES off not plays so thats a BIG time worry. How many players have you seen take GAMES off and make it in the NFL? lol
then the reaches. I value the 2nd day a D- the 3rd day a C+. The guys they got on the 3rd day were a little better value picks.
No their picks were ok but the value was a little low. They grabbed way to many players that i felt were drafted to high. The players they got have flaws and were graded lower for a reason thats all i am saying. If they can get Malik McDowell to play then thats a pretty good pick up but this dude was taking GAMES off not plays so thats a BIG time worry. How many players have you seen take GAMES off and make it in the NFL? lol
then the reaches. I value the 2nd day a D- the 3rd day a C+. The guys they got on the 3rd day were a little better value picks.
Yeah, I heard PC indicate that in the post draft presser. I guess that what they all say though -- "this is the guy we really wanted" cuz it's not like they're going to say how they were really hoping for Kevin King but settled for McDowell when King was no longer there.Carroll said McDowell is who they were targeting at #26 anyways... They rolled the dice, w/ plenty of homework and picked up 4 additional picks to boot... They got their man and 4 additional picks... I'd say that's a pretty damn good win...
If they had a player graded head and shoulders above the other cluster of guys at the top of their board at 26 (or 31, or 35....), I think they would have held ground and taken him right there. Instead, they take a calculated risk in exchange for 4 more picks. I think it's a good strategy even if McDowell doesn't pan out.
The only picks that I think you can call "home runs" from the 4th or later are Kam Chancellor (2010), KJ Wright (2011) and Sherm (2011). But there's been at least 1 hit from the 4th round or later in every draft since 2012:Lockett was a 3rd rounder, who else has worked out recently? Most of the homeruns were taken in 2012 and earlier. Not a lot has come from more recent drafts
This is more draft-adjacent news than draft news, but I didn't want to start a whole new thread for it.
Jake Heaps has signed with the Hawks and will be around to compete for the backup spot this summer along with the UDFA QB the Hawks picked up.
Like this pick up. Kids been here before and knows the offense and he looked good the last time he was here. Starter no, starter in a pinch, sure it could be worse much worse. Don't think he beats out Boykin but he might not have to.
Expect to lots of 4-2-5 schemes as the passing game has become more important and utilized over time. If you agree with that, then we have 2 superb starters at LB. It could be a waste of a #1 pick to pick a position that is becoming less valuable over time. I am pretty sure that is where Pete is heading with our personnel groupings as we have avoided the 3rd LB spot for the last 2 drafts and hardly used a 3rd LB at all last year.foster fell for off field issues and potential injury issues, not because of talent issues.
if he ends up an all pro and mcdowell ends up a bust, its a huge blunder.