Trade Alex Smith for........

[mem49er]

Greg Roman is one of the best OCs in the NFL. His playcalling is bi-polar and he tends to get too cute at times, but schematically - especially in run blocking - the guy is a genius.

I do like his schemes, especially in the run game. I never payed attention at Stanford, is the play-calling the same, did he regress or was someone else calling it? Wonder how it would be if Harbaugh took over the play calls?

 

[DoobieKeebler]

Greg Roman is one of the best OCs in the NFL. His playcalling is bi-polar and he tends to get too cute at times, but schematically - especially in run blocking - the guy is a genius.

I like to think Tomsula is a larger part of why the OL are good run blockers, but I'm probably just tying to ignore the fact Roman is most likely gone once the season is over.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

I'm hoping Smith has some trade value. I tend to think teams will just wait for us to cut him but I would love to be wrong about that.

 

[Flyingiguana]

I do like his schemes, especially in the run game. I never payed attention at Stanford, is the play-calling the same, did he regress or was someone else calling it? Wonder how it would be if Harbaugh took over the play calls?

roman would be fine in the big ten

 

[mem49er]

roman would be fine in the big ten

Maybe, but that wasn't my question. Any incite?

 

[Flyingiguana]

Maybe, but that wasn't my question. Any incite?

I brought this up b4. Harbaugh is the reason luck didn't win the Hessian

 

[retech]

I wouldn't mind Norv back.

God help us. After watching Turner during his time with SF call 3 running plays up the middle in the red zone time after time???? No thanks...

Maybe we should just hire Jimmy Raye back...

 

[Kinzu]

I'm hoping Smith has some trade value. I tend to think teams will just wait for us to cut him but I would love to be wrong about that.

You would think he has more than Sanchez but who knows. First Impressions sometimes mean more than what you've done lately. Sanchez started off with a bright future and has slowly turned into the worst QB in the league. Alex started as one of the worst QB's and worked his way up to what looked to be a bright future.

 

[clyde_carbon]

God help us. After watching Turner during his time with SF call 3 running plays up the middle in the red zone time after time???? No thanks...

Maybe we should just hire Jimmy Raye back...

What other option did Norv Turner have? To let a young Alex Smith throw it 30 times a game?

 

[Crimsoncrew]

I was listening to KNBR last night, and Ray Woodson was talking about Smith's prospects for next year. I realize that's not really the theme of this thread, but this seemed the best place to discuss it. I found his statements curious and somewhat contradictory.

First, he said there is no way the Niners would trade Smith, given that teams would just wait for him to be cut. However, when someone else said that Smith was a career backup, Woodson went off on him, mentioning the usual stats cited in support of Smith: passer rating, record over the past two years, 25/27 just before he went down.

I don't think you can have that both ways. If Smith is a top-10 QB, as Woodson seemed to be suggesting, then there will absolutely be teams willing to trade for him. This is one of the worst draft classes at the QB position in some time, and several teams could use an upgrade at the position (Minnesota, Arizona, NYJ, Jacksonville, KC). If any of those teams views Smith as even a top-16 QB, there should be a market for him. He's an experienced QB, and his salary - even with the roster bonus - is low for a good starter. If we can't swing a trade for him, I think it's an indication that teams view him as a borderline starter or backup. Or the team refuses to do something like that without Smith's OK, which I think is a possibility.

Woodson was kind of all over the map last night, dismissing several spots as terrible teams that Alex wasn't likely to go to. But also dismissing the idea that Smith would go somewhere as a backup. Well, if a team isn't struggling, it's usually got a good QB. So if Smith wants to start, he'll have to look into some mediocre teams.

 

[EaseUrStorm]

If I were a GM and was thinking about bringing in Alex, I'd be very concerned about his ability to come in and be productive right away. He's not the player you can just throw in there. He'll need to have time to digest the system before he becomes functional. In that sense, he's a terrible stop gap QB. If you're looking two, three years out, then that's okay as an option and that could work for a team who can't get their QB through the draft. Problem is that's not the way the NFL works because when a team struggles badly the coach/gm can be gone within one year. So I think that will take away from his trade value. We should get something for him, but it won't be high draft picks.

 

[Bemular]

I was listening to KNBR last night, and Ray Woodson was talking about Smith's prospects for next year. I realize that's not really the theme of this thread, but this seemed the best place to discuss it. I found his statements curious and somewhat contradictory.

First, he said there is no way the Niners would trade Smith, given that teams would just wait for him to be cut. However, when someone else said that Smith was a career backup, Woodson went off on him, mentioning the usual stats cited in support of Smith: passer rating, record over the past two years, 25/27 just before he went down.

I don't think you can have that both ways. If Smith is a top-10 QB, as Woodson seemed to be suggesting, then there will absolutely be teams willing to trade for him. This is one of the worst draft classes at the QB position in some time, and several teams could use an upgrade at the position (Minnesota, Arizona, NYJ, Jacksonville, KC). If any of those teams views Smith as even a top-16 QB, there should be a market for him. He's an experienced QB, and his salary - even with the roster bonus - is low for a good starter. If we can't swing a trade for him, I think it's an indication that teams view him as a borderline starter or backup. Or the team refuses to do something like that without Smith's OK, which I think is a possibility.

Woodson was kind of all over the map last night, dismissing several spots as terrible teams that Alex wasn't likely to go to. But also dismissing the idea that Smith would go somewhere as a backup. Well, if a team isn't struggling, it's usually got a good QB. So if Smith wants to start, he'll have to look into some mediocre teams.

With the exception of Space, rmilla, Viser, iguana and perhaps a few others, this forum has correctly pegged Alex as a career back-up or a stop-gap starter - at best.

Now, what will determine the path he takes to arrive at that station is the market. - Regardless, whether Smith is traded or escorted, neither determines nor changes his skill. So, you actually can have it both ways.

If statistics and experience were the exclusive qualifier of skill & ability as apparently Woodson, and the aforementioned claim it is, then we would be having a much different discussion about Alex Smith.

 

[Flyingiguana]

With the exception of Space, rmilla, Viser, iguana and perhaps a few others, this forum has correctly pegged Alex as a career back-up or a stop-gap starter - at best.

Now, what will determine the path he takes to arrive at that station is the market. - Regardless, whether Smith is traded or escorted, neither determines nor changes his skill. So, you actually can have it both ways.

If statistics and experience were the exclusive qualifier of skill & ability as apparently Woodson, and the aforementioned claim it is, then we would be having a much different discussion about Alex Smith.

he is a stop gap starter...

 

[Bemular]

If I were a GM and was thinking about bringing in Alex, I'd be very concerned about his ability to come in and be productive right away. He's not the player you can just throw in there. He'll need to have time to digest the system before he becomes functional. In that sense, he's a terrible stop gap QB. If you're looking two, three years out, then that's okay as an option and that could work for a team who can't get their QB through the draft. Problem is that's not the way the NFL works because when a team struggles badly the coach/gm can be gone within one year. So I think that will take away from his trade value. We should get something for him, but it won't be high draft picks.

I wholeheartedly agree with this, but any team willing to give up something for Alex in addition to taking on his contract will be looking to have him behind center in September, or he will be one of the highest paid back-ups in the league. Thus, any team willing to trade for Alex will have to be running an offense they are relatively certain Smith can learn quickly, IMO.