Top 32 tournament RF Ruth vs Drew

[obxyankeefan]

I thought I would try something to get some more talk about baseball history on here. Top 32 players ranked by BRWAR(as of 6/18/15). I will put one matchup per position each week and over 31 week we will vote for who the best at that postition is

Rightfield Bracket is:

1 B Ruth
32 J D Drew

16 D Winfield
17 G Sheffield

8 R Jackson
25 E Flick

9 P Waner
24 W Keeler

4 F Robinson
29 K Cuyler

13 D Evans
20 I Suzuki

5 R Clemente
28 B Giles

12 T Gwynn
21 S Sosa

3 M Ott
30 R Staub

14 R Smith
19 V Guerrero

6 A Kaline
27 S Rice

11 H Heilmann
22 B Bonds

2 H Aaron
31 H Stovey

15 A Dawson
18 B Abreu

7 S Crawford
26 H Hooper

10 L Walker
23 E Slaughter

 

[obxyankeefan]

Babe Ruth BRWAR 163.1
J D Drew BRWAR 44.9

 

[navamind]

another under-appreciated player.

 

[calsnowskier]

another under-appreciated player.

I dont know that I agree. Ruth has been highly praised by many people since his playing days. In some circles, he is even considered the best player ever.

Now JD Drew, on the other hand, was a pretty good player, and I think deserved more attention.














written with a completely straight face...

 

[obxyankeefan]

another under-appreciated player.

JD was overhyped when he came up with the Cardinals and I think that hurt him in the eyes of the fans his whole career. People were always expecting Roy Hobbs and got a legit everyday starter instead.

 

[DHoey]

I didn't know Ruth's last season was with the Boston Braves.

 

[obxyankeefan]

I didn't know Ruth's last season was with the Boston Braves.

Because the Yankees wouldn't let him be manager, he went to Boston to be the Player/Manager. It was not one of the finer moments of his career.

 

[navamind]

JD was overhyped when he came up with the Cardinals and I think that hurt him in the eyes of the fans his whole career. People were always expecting Roy Hobbs and got a legit everyday starter instead.

The nagging injuries (i.e. vertigo) were what did him in. He played at a very high level at times (2004, 2001, 2008/09, etc.), but outside of 2004, he never really put it together over a full season. Drew batted .305/.436/.569 in 2004 and finished with 8.3 bWAR. That would usually be enough to lead the league most years, but he finished t-5th (with Todd Helton) in the NL. Bonds finished with 10.6. Beltre and Rolen had 9+. Also, there was some guy named Albert Pujols that was kinda good. Meanwhile, there was only one position player with 8+ WAR in the AL that year (Ichiro at 9.1).

 

[calsnowskier]

I didn't know Ruth's last season was with the Boston Braves.

Ruth started in Boston as a Red Sox player, retired in Boston as a Braves player.
Mays started in New York asa Giants player, retired in New York as a Mets player.
Aaron started in Milwaukee was a Braves player, retired in Milwaukee as a Brewers player.
Jimmie Foxx started in Philadelphia as an Athletics player, retired in Philadelphia as a Phillies player.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Ruth started in Boston as a Red Sox player, retired in Boston as a Braves player.
Mays started in New York asa Giants player, retired in New York as a Mets player.
Aaron started in Milwaukee was a Braves player, retired in Milwaukee as a Brewers player.
Jimmie Foxx started in Philadelphia as an Athletics player, retired in Philadelphia as a Phillies player.

You Forgot Duke Snider,retired as a Met.

 

[obxyankeefan]

The nagging injuries (i.e. vertigo) were what did him in. He played at a very high level at times (2004, 2001, 2008/09, etc.), but outside of 2004, he never really put it together over a full season. Drew batted .305/.436/.569 in 2004 and finished with 8.3 bWAR. That would usually be enough to lead the league most years, but he finished t-5th (with Todd Helton) in the NL. Bonds finished with 10.6. Beltre and Rolen had 9+. Also, there was some guy named Albert Pujols that was kinda good. Meanwhile, there was only one position player with 8+ WAR in the AL that year (Ichiro at 9.1).

I need to go look at his stats, I knew he would put it all together for periods of time. I didn't realize he had a full year once.

 

[calsnowskier]

You Forgot Duke Snider,retired as a Met.

Nope. Worse.

He retired with the SF Giants.

 

[navamind]

I need to go look at his stats, I knew he would put it all together for periods of time. I didn't realize he had a full year once.

Not that I'd call 145 games a "full year", but he did have 645 PA.

He also batted .279/.392/.522 in 139 games (134 OPS+) with good defense in 2009.