Top 32 tournament CF Speaker vs Cobb

[obxyankeefan]

Top 32 players ranked by BRWAR(as of 6/18/15).

Centerfield Bracket is:

1 W Mays 9
32 M Cameron 0

16 J Wynn 8
17 C Lemon 3

8 C Beltran 10
25 E Burks 1

9 D Snider 9
24 F Lynn 0

4 M Mantle 9
29 E Averill 0

13 W Davis 5
20 C Cedeno 4

5 K Griffey JR 13
28 B Williams 0

12 A Jones 9
21 J O' Rourke 0

3 T Speaker 6
30 D White 0

14 J Edmonds 12
19 V Pinson 1

6 J DiMaggio 4
27 B Butler 0

11 B Hamilton 2
22 K Puckett 7

2 T Cobb 9
31 T Leach 0

15 J Damon 7
18 M Carey 6

7 K Lofton 12
26 L Doby 3

10 R Ashhburn 6
23 T Hunter 1

1 W Mays 8
16 J Wynn 0

8 C Beltran 0
9 D Snider 9

4 M Mantle 11
13 W Davis 0

5 K Griffey JR 11
12 A Jones 0

3 T Speaker 10
14 J Edmonds 0

6 J DiMaggio 12
22 K Puckett 1

2 T Cobb 12
15 J Damon 0

7 K Lofton 7
10 R Ashburn 3

1 W Mays 5
9 D Snider 0

4 M Mantle 11
5 K Griffey JR 1

3 T Speaker 10
6 J dimaggio 3

2 T Cobb 7
7 K Lofton 1

1 W Mays 11
4 M Mantle 3

3 T Speaker
2 T Cobb

1 W Mays

 

[obxyankeefan]

Tris Speaker Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com
Beat Deavon White, Jim Edmonds, and Joe DiMaggio 26-3

Ty Cobb Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com
Beat Tommy Leach, Johnny Damon, and Kenny lofton 28-1

 

[MilkSpiller22]

This one is interesting: They played at the same time so we don't need to look at MLB averages...

Power- Speaker wins(close)
ISO
Speaker-Career=156, Best=230, 499+PA better=11
Cobb- Career=146, Best=219, 499+PA better=7

BA- Cobb wins(not close)
Speaker-Career=.345, Best=.389,499+PA seasons better=9
Cobb- Career=.366, Best=.420, 499+PA seasons better=11

BB- Speaker wins(close)
BB%
Speaker-Career=11.5, Best=14.9, 499+PA better=13
Cobb- Career=9.6, Best=16.8, 499+PA better=8

SO-Speaker wins(not close)
SO%
Speaker- Career=3.3, Best=1.3,499+PA better=13
Cobb- CAreer=5.2, Best=2.1, 499+PA better=8

SB- Cobb wins(NOT CLOSE)- BUT with incomplete CS numbers both May be under 75% for there career... Cobb right now is at 81%...
Speaker- Career=436, Best=52, 20 or more SB=10
Cobb- Career=897, Best=96, 20 or more SB seasons=17

defense- Speaker wins(NOT CLOSE)
Speaker-Career=2.5, Best=1.1, Seasons 1 or better=1, seasons over 0=9
Cobb- Career=-10.8, Best=.3, seasons over 0=5

Post season- Speaker wins(NOT CLOSE)- but both were well below their career averages...

Speaker was better at more things, but it wasn't large enough to compensate for Cobb's BA... AND Speaker wasn't good enough defensively to get the PREMIUM position boost...

Cobb wins in a tight one...

 

[calsnowskier]

OPS+ (Cobb/Speaker)
120 - 22/18
130 - 21/16
140 - 16/16
150 - 16/13
160 - 16/10
170 - 11/9
180 - 10/4
190 - 9/0
200 - 3/0

Speaker is a legit top-5 OFer of all time. But Cobb is in a class(less) of his own.

Cobb wins easily.

 

[calsnowskier]

This has actually been a rather dull bracket. Only 2 upsets the entire way (22 over 11 and 9 over 8)