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[CaptainStubing]

Having Matt Schaub on the list ruins the whole thing for me.

well, but i believe there were literally only 107 qb's that met all of the criteria so showing him as a 'below average' nfl qb is fair i think.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Pretty straight forward and simple. It's a pure point based ranking system. Averages are taken based on league average performance for each season a player in the in the NFL. So, if a player completes 300 passes, and the league average is 300 completions the players is assessed 100.0 points on completions for that season. This is taken for the players entire career. Peyton Manning ended with a 116.3 for completions for his career (he's completed 5532 passes against a cumulative league average for his career of 4735.8), earning him first place on that category and 1 point. These rankings are made for each category (not all were straight percentages, like pro bowls and such were raw numbers). Percentages that were used were done on a difference scale. Steve young completed 64.3% of his passes for his career, 7.7 higher that the league average over that span (56.5%), he finished first in career completion percentage and received 1 point. The player with the lowest combined number overall is in 1st place (Montana ended with a score of 371, Brady had a 480).

Super bowls themselves were not specifically targeted, jut total playoff wins (and I've only added them reluctantly as I feel team performance numbers skew the numbers). I am still not sure if adding playoffs and personal awards/clutch stats was a good idea. Some players benefited from them (Elway rose over 10 total spots) where others were severely punished for playing in a different era and less playoff opportunities (Sonny Jurgensen fell at least 20 places because he played in one epicly bad play off game). In the end, I felt that it had to be added, or I'd just field the what about the play off comments.

In the end, the things that meant the least in the comparison were All Pro selections and MVP awards. The more players in the pool for a given category hurts those who don't do well. In the MVP, only 23 players had at least 1, so the bottom 84 players only lost 23 points off the leader, as opposed to 106 in most other categories.[/QU

Dang great job I also had Montana and Brady 1st and second and Manning top 5

 

[ram29jackson]

footnote-

after this post season, Manning has thrown for more career playoff yards than Brady

 

[sonnyblack65]

I don't suppose there is an adjustment for when a QB orchestrates a scoring drive late in the game only to have his defense give it away

When Brady did that in both Giants SB losses they called it choking

 

[sonnyblack65]

footnote-

after this post season, Manning has thrown for more career playoff yards than Brady

Who cares below avg in playoffs. If you put your teams in deep holes with pick 6's and int , you have to throw a lot to try and comeback. Your down 29-0 what are you gonna do, run the ball?

 

[ram29jackson]

Who cares below avg in playoffs. If you put your teams in deep holes with pick 6's and int , you have to throw a lot to try and comeback. Your down 29-0 what are you gonna do, run the ball?

so what ? this is about individual accolades, not just team stuff and he is already number 3

 

[packerzrule]

When Brady did that in both Giants SB losses they called it choking

roger that

 

[ram29jackson]

super bowl era,but...


where would Sammy Baugh fit ?

 

[Jim Rome is Flaming]

60. Frank Ryan
59. Brian Sipe
58. Chris Everett
57. Kerry Collins
56. Ken O'Brien
55. Jeff George
54. Jim Plunkett
53. Drew Bledsoe
52. Jim Hart
51. Brad Johnson

FIFY

 

[blstoker]

super bowl era,but...


where would Sammy Baugh fit ?

I had to throw out pre super bowl because of the problems with the playoffs. If I lost the play offs, Baugh would have been right in front of Brady. Otto Graham would have finished first and Montana second.

 

[ram29jackson]

I had to throw out pre super bowl because of the problems with the playoffs. If I lost the play offs, Baugh would have been right in front of Brady. Otto Graham would have finished first and Montana second.

interesting

 

[UK Cowboy]

107. David Carr
106. Mike Phipps
105. Kordell Stewart
104. Gus Frerotte
103. Jeff Blake
102. Brian Griese
101. Bob Berry

Yuck

 

[mcnabb7542]

30. Rich Gannon
29. Randall Cunningham
28. Roman Gabriel
27. Bob Griese
26. Tony Romo
25. Donovan McNabb
24. Troy Aikman
23. Len Dawson
22. Ben Roethlisberger
21. Philip Rivers

That's all that matter's in the world Donnie Mac rated better then Homo....

Carry on...

 

[ram29jackson]

Ive posted this list at other sites. I did not take credit for it I assure you. But people are not liking that Aaron Rodgers didn't make the list LOL.


sheesh I'm a Packers fan and I could care less...maybe next year?

 

[blstoker]

Ive posted this list at other sites. I did not take credit for it I assure you. But people are not liking that Aaron Rodgers didn't make the list LOL.


sheesh I'm a Packers fan and I could care less...maybe next year?

Yeah, I know, everyone's a critic.

 

[sonnyblack65]

so what ? this is about individual accolades, not just team stuff and he is already number 3

So what is right I still have him top 5 of all-time and first ballet HOF Is Favre the best ever cause he played 20 years and has set a lot of passing records? Peyton has been doing it for 15 years, not many QB's can say that

 

[sonnyblack65]

I had to throw out pre super bowl because of the problems with the playoffs. If I lost the play offs, Baugh would have been right in front of Brady. Otto Graham would have finished first and Montana second.

Also Bart Starr and Otto Graham would be up there too, but like you said SB era stats

 

[sonnyblack65]

Ive posted this list at other sites. I did not take credit for it I assure you. But people are not liking that Aaron Rodgers didn't make the list LOL.


sheesh I'm a Packers fan and I could care less...maybe next year?

Definately next year would give him the 10 yr criteria for the list. Aaron Rodgers is amazing. Brady and Manning are getting old and he is the next guy

 

[blstoker]

Also Bart Starr and Otto Graham would be up there too, but like you said SB era stats

Actually, Bart Starr got on the list, #19, and his entire career was used (as I did for any player who started at least 2 years from '66 on, but still had a majority of their career before that). He's a little underrepresented in the playoffs, but not nearly as bad as Otto Graham would have been.

 

[kcden]

Originally Posted by blstoker
60. Frank Ryan
59. Brian Sipe
58. Chris Everett
57. Kerry Collins
56. Ken O'Brien
55. Jeff George
54. Jim Plunkett
53. Drew Bledsoe
52. Jim Hart
51. Brad FIFY

That's funny... that is EXACTLY what my thought was when I just glanced over his name on the list... and I have rarely ever even watched Rome's shows.